Musical education

Pinhead

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Oct 27, 2002
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Do u have any musical education? studying your instrument at a university or someting?

I started to play guitar when i was 15. (6 years ago) But i never had any professional education. I'm familliar to all kind of technics and stuff. But there is a point where u can't go on becomming better by your self. Thats why I decided to go to the "vienna guitar institute" in a few months.
 
I agree with you. I started playing guitar (clasic) when I was 14. I left after a year, bought an electric guitar and just started playing with friends (no classes). Just when I was about to finish high school, (16-17 years old) I had this feeling I should learn more (thing like tapping, scales, sweep picking, etc). so I started private lessons.

Eventhough, I still had this feeling.... I mean my teacher used to talk about Root note, the fifth, Minor Chords, Minor molic scales, etc. I had no problem at learning that mechanicaly, but I wanted to know how, why, for what. UNDERSTAND?

So in 2000 I decided to role in University to study music maybe not to become a concertist, (clasic guitarist, profesor and concertist are the degrees) but to know about music and its fanstastic mysteries.

Actually, I´m about to enter in 3º year, and I also go to private clases to increase my electric guitar techniques and speed.
I`m proud of my decision and I enjoy it a lot...

So in my opinion... GO FOR IT!!!!!:)
 
I agree, too. I find it difficult to understand that people who play an instrument don't want to understand music better. And if you do, you can't beat a good school to study at.

After I'd been playing for a few years, I decided to get serious and found a teacher who specialised in jazz and fusion, workin on improvisation a lot, and understanding the progressions you're playing over. Chordal harmony theory was covered a lot, as it's the beginnings of improvising, so I got a good grounding in that from him.

But I really wanted to understand chordal harmony more, things about progressions and such, even though I already had a start in these areas.
Technique is something that requires practice, and you can benefit a lot from having a teacher, pointing out what's going wrong, how to improve it, but you can't escape the fact that you have to go away and practice a lot on your own.
But for theory, there's no better way than to get in a class (whether at college, university, or, if you're lucky enough to live by one, a dedicated music school).
I began a degree in music at university, but unfortunately had to quit because of lack of funds. Whilst I was there, I learned a lot. Sight reading was a great skill to work on, score analysis, compositional styling, working with chromatic scales, substitutions, all of this stuff is fascinating and can be really rewarding to study. The professors were very good teachers, and you can't beat the feeling of working under people who have made it their life's work to understanding music.

As luck would have it, a new dedicated institution for music has opened up in my city (chaired by none other than Bruce Dickinson!). I'm looking into enrolling there and completeing my degree. I might be able to start this September :)
 
I used to study singing in the Opera Academy here in Croatia, but I gave it up. I'm starting again this year. (Was supposed to last year in June but things got fucked up. Long story why.)
Also, I study contrbass in music school.

PINHEAD!! Maybe I should drop you when I'm in Vienna next time so we could jam a bit? :)
 
Yes I had piano lessons for quite some time (3 years) I never took guitar or singing lessons though, i've been thinking that I should get some guitar lessons, but I don't have the time for it (working on an orchestra, work and studies takes too much of my time)
 
@ Pallas Athenea: Yeah, i know what you mean. To understand what lies behind all the stuff you hear and play is very important to myself and in general too i think. And thats one of my goals, to have a average musical knowledge. Music is one of the biggest parts of my life. And i don't want to rate music just by the fact if it sounds good or not. Musik is much more than that.

@ Ultima Ibanez Overlord: Yery true! My problem was that i had so much time to practice, but no teacher or something who told me WHAT to practice. So i got stuck at a point. I practiced scales and arpecios (for example) for years each and every day. But thats just a small part of playing guitar. there is so much more. And you can't explore everything by your self. You need someone to teach you.

@ Eramaajarvi: Yeah, that would be great! When do you come to Vienna? Just write me a mail, or a PM or something. You have been here before?
 
i have done music GCSE in England and im now doing music A level, i passed grade 8 a couple of months back, been playing guitar for about 8-9 years now, ive got through about 8 tutors now because half of them suck cock.
 
Originally posted by Pinhead
[B@ Eramaajarvi: Yeah, that would be great! When do you come to Vienna? Just write me a mail, or a PM or something. You have been here before? [/B]

I've been there 4 or 5 times, first time when I was 2 years old, last time in November last year on a gig in Planet Music. I'm not sure when I'll be going next time, but I'll keep you posted! :)
 
I never took private music lessons but I did take band and choir in highschool. I took choir mainly so I could start to train my voice. And although band sucked a big one I'm glad I took it for one reason...sightreading.

When I started playing guitar, all this theory stuff was really easy to pick up. I can't imagine how much longer it would have taken me if I didn't know what a Time or Key signature was or if I couldn't read any sheet music.

Moral of the story - Even if it sucks you can still learn something useful from it.

-Chaos
 
I was self taught for years, and then studied at the Australian Institute of Music in the early 90s.

I think there's a point at which more education is really vaulable, but after that it requires a lof more of your own exploration, then repeat process and rinse.
 
I started with classical guitar when I was 11, eight years ago. I had stopped for a two-year period, though. Now I'm back to classes, and it's really nice :) Also, I've just started taking vocal lessons (as Eramaajarvi and Ultimate_Symphony bitterly know) and I'm trying to find the money to begin theory/harmony lessons as well. I definitely believe that you cannot reach your top with no lessons. Lessons will not make a person a musical genius, but they will help him reach *his* top. You can't go anywhere without talent, but talent by itself is not enough. It also takes work.....

BTW, I'm still dreaming of the day when I'll buy an oboe and start playing!! :) Oh, and I'd love to learn piano............
 
When I was starting music school I was offered contrabass, oboe and trombone :) (I came too late on the audition and the singing places were filled)
Btw, oboe breathing technique is the same as singing, if it's any help :)
 
:lol: at least you remember your former teacher's Feanor :lol: :p Couldn't agree more with your statement, knowing that, i've been looking for a guitar teacher, but no luck so far. I doubt i'll get any lesson's soon since i'll have my head filled with college :mad:
 
Well, I have been formally trained most of my life. I "was" a semi-accomplished clarinet player for about....goodness, 14 years:lol: . Along the way I picked up keyboard, trumpet, trombone, sax...but I was only "formally" trained in clarinet...all the way through college. I picked up geeeeetar on my own when I was 21...have ALWAYS wanted to take lessons, grrrrr...so far that's the hardest instrument I have tried to pick up, hehe.


Grrrrrrr...gotta go...expecting a phone call...cool thread!:)