MUSICAL PIRACY:Just one question.

[ACIDBATHER]

Why are individuals being held accountable for burning music while the manufacturers of cd burners and cd-r discs will probably never see the inside of a civil court room?

 

[Birkenau]

Yes, because people only use cd-burners and cd-r's for burning music.

 

[Lyle]

becuase zionists control the capital and the means of production...

 

[ACIDBATHER]

Uh, SEEK HELP-I mean, Sieg heil.

 

[Wings of a dream]

Because you can use CDs for legal things and that does not make the manufactores liable.

You can burn data, personal videos, music BACK UP and things like that, and you're not doing anything ilegal. Same thing goes for the P2P programs.

 

[Vital Remains]

the company didnt say what they were going to be used to burn music. i like that axe dude ^. i would need about 5000 for that one i bet.

 

[MadeInNewJersey]

That'd be like suing an auto manufacturer for a drunk driver hitting someone.

Are you fucking stupid?

 

[ACIDBATHER]

I should be asking you that question if you are naive enough to believe that the manufactuers aren't aware of the fact that most people aren't buying burners for such benign purposes as video transfers and such.

All I am really getting at is that there is plenty of accountablity to go around, and big business is every bit as responsible for piracy as any individual out there-period.

 

[MadeInNewJersey]

I should be asking you that question if you are naive enough to believe that the manufactuers aren't aware of the fact that most people aren't buying burners for such benign purposes as video transfers and such.

All I am really getting at is that there is plenty of accountablity to go around, and big business is every bit as responsible for piracy as any individual out there-period.

No, they're not.

 

[MadeInNewJersey]

Again, I point out relatively simple exhibit A:

Should auto manufacturers be held "accountable" for knowingly making, marketing & selling cars to people who they just know are going to drive drunk?

Seriously, are you fucking stupid?

 

[TylerTheNuke]

I use burners and CD-R's for other things besides music copying, let alone piracy. Lots of people use it to back up information, for example. If you are in a band, CD-R's are a good way to distribute music without signing into some shitty agreement. I used to put school assignments that were too big for a floppy on a CD-R (like a powerpoint), although now I use a memory stick. You have to be retarded to think that the companies are accountable.

 

[MadeInNewJersey]

And of course no one uses CD-Rs to back up data, use it for school, etc., etc., so on and so forth.

 

[Susperia]

Oh dear--- I use them for school. I am one of a kind I guess.

 

[ACIDBATHER]

No, I'm not stupid, I don't see a comparision between auto-manufacturers who make cars that perform an absolutley vital service and the people who make burners, though I will admit that I use them for other things as well-about 85% less often than I did when I was heavily into file sharing.


Btw, If you can't disagree agreeably, piss up a rope fellas.

 

[Birkenau]

Since when are cars vital?

 

[Phrozenspite]

actually the whole grokster decision is being criticized because it allows companies and inventors to be held liable if their product would conceivably be used for illegal purposes in the majority of cases, which essentially reversed the Betamax decision.

 

[Flaming Death]

I agree with the everyone else on this matter. Cd-Rs and other file storage device makers are not accountable at all. The comparison to automobiles is valid. I am into photography and I know a ton of people store and back up photos and tons of other things. What you are saying is almost like saying the cd company is liable for the losses of a professional photographer when people scan photos to burn.

If this was the case then we would never have any products or inventions that could in any way be used for illegal purposes.

 

[Birkenau]

They shouldn't sell cameras because people can make kiddy porn with them.

 

[Zack]

Ropes should be banned, because someone will inevitably hang themselves form one.

As a matter of fact, we should just kill everyone because we will assuredly rid the world of all homicides.

Those assholes that sell wood should be killed. Seriously, these jackasses market a FLAMABLE substance and are getting away with it?

Music should be banned, because artists are making music that someone will eventually steal.

They shouldn't have messageboards because someone might post a shitty thread on it and then some kid would commit suicide. And then Deron would get sent to jail because it would be his fault, since he runs the messageboard.

Knives have potential to kill people, so we shouldn't use them to cook.

You can overdose on Tylenol, so Tylenol should be held responsible to all suicides as a result of their product.

You can fall off of a ladder, so it's the manufacturers fault if you get injured.

While we're at it, lets just get rid of everything because all things have potential for corruption.

 

[Hell Mike]

some kid would commit suicide. And then Deron would get sent to jail because it would be his fault, since he runs the messageboard.

someone take one for the team