My first test with DFHS Superior 2.0

Splat88

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Here's my first attempt with Superior 2.0. I really love what this program is capable of. I hope you enjoy the drums as much as I do. This is just a bunch of song ideas, not really a song yet, so bear with the drawn out parts where vocals will go. There's some crunchiness on the master bus but its not too bad for just a test. What do you think?

Guitars are my Ibanez S with a newly installed Duncan Distortion into Line 6 Gearbox. I took the JB out. The bass is my Fender P in to a POD X3.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=404561


Here's the DFHS 2.0 patch if anyone wants it. It does not include my Cubase mixer settings and effects though, so it will not sound exactly the same. I did extra EQ and compression on each of the 3 snare mics, the kick and toms in cubase. I also adjust volumes for the rest of the mics in Cubase too like the room and bullet mics. No sample replacement was used at all. But this patch may be a good place to start for some that are struggling with 2.0. Enjoy!

http://www.esnips.com/web/DFHSSuperior20

And here's the guitar and bass patches. I used a real TS9 instead of Gearbox's but this patch has a built-in tube screamer setting that sounds reasonably close.

NOTE: I only engaged the TS9 on sections where I palm mute. There's no TS9 on the open chord stuff.

I also threw in the Curve EQ files for the guitars. There's 2 different EQs for 4 quadtracked guitars.

Guitar 1 and 4 panned L and R with Curve EQ 1
Guitar 2 and 3 panned 85% L and R with Curve EQ 2 and -3dbs lower in the mix.

All guitars were then sent to a buss with a .5 db boost at 5k and high pass at 50hz and low pass at 12000hz with a steep slope of 36dbs per octave. I used andy's C4 setting after that but I increased the gain of the active band from .3 dbs to 4.6 and changed the release from 25ms to 5ms. Set the threshold so the little orange dancing line bounces just down below the center horizontal line on the palm mutes.

I also uploaded a clip of what the guitars should sound like solo'd.


http://www.esnips.com/web/Splat88GuitarandBasspatches072308/
 
That sounds awesome. The drums have a very Deftone-ish vibe to them, which is a very good thing. Guitars sound good, too. All in all, well played.
 
Its allright, I like the toms alot,...........the snare sounds boxy, Ive liked sounds youve had in the past better.

Really? Man I listen back to some of those old recordings I did and I can't believe how much I hate the drums. It sounds too triggered and fake to me. I'll have to mess with Superior 2.0 a little more but at least it sounds very natural to me. I actually am really liking this particular snare a lot. I'm going for a a Deftones type of natural, tight and punchy snare. I'll have to mess with the EQ and maybe pull out some junk at 400HZ or so. My ultimate goal is to not have to use any triggers at all on the kit. I agree with you on the toms. They are SO much better that v1.0. How do you like the kick?
 
I know what you mean with the more natural snare, I like that the snare sounds like something that would actually happen in real life but I guess I would like it to be a little "crack-ier" in the top end, I liked the snare in "Misplaced Experts" alot, Ive never really gotten deep into the midi drum stuff so I dont know where my critique of post processing and the actually sample overlap, but a mix of those two sounds would be tits. the bass drum sound is cool I think it suits the material well. rock it.
 
Dude, your stuff amazes me everytime you come up with something new. And this time you make me even more impatient for my copy of Superior 2.

My tiny bit of criticism:
I'm with Manicompression about the top end beeing "crackier". Especially to get the Deftones-vibe going. I think a bit more smack'n'crack will get the drums even more in Cunningham's direction.

I need to collect as much information about Superior 2-stuff as possible, so ... would you share some infos on your "preset" please? I'm a huge fan of your AD-preset as well, by the way (just tweaked it a little bit).
 
sounds pretty good, but the slate stuff definitely sounds better to me...

I'm with Joshua. Hate to be a downer, but I definitely think that the drums in Wake Darker Skies are a lot more slammin and lively. There is something wrong about the way cymbals sound in Superior 2, but I just can't put my finger on it. It's like they're all close mic'ed, with no stereo spillover or ambience. They're almost too articulate or something. The slate drums are definitely more record-ready than the Superior stuff.
 
I just put up a new mix. I experimented with the OHs. It seems that the overhead cymbals mics are very one dimensional. I loaded the cymbals in one of the ambient mics and I think there's a lot more separation now. I also backed off the master limiter so this one won't seem as loud initially. Its the one titled "Song Idea DFHS Superior 2.0 best"

I hope you guys like this one better...
 
I gotta listen to it later on headphones. I can't make out any differences on my macbook-speakers with extremely annoying background-noises :D
BTW: the song itself also reminds me of the deftones.
 
Reminds me of something that couldve been on Devin Townsend's 'Ocean Machine' record. I love that record and i love your song. You gotta finish it, and i want a copy!
as far as mix, i think it sounds awesome. great job, brotha.
 
Splatt I think this is the most real sounding kit (the best sample) I have ever heard from samples. I'm not a big fan of the snare but thats just preference. Any chance you can share the preset from superior and explain what you are doing after the preset? THanks!
 
Any chance you can share the preset from superior and explain what you are doing after the preset? THanks!

+1

I need your help Splat, i'm pretty lost in S2.0 myself. Are you using the samples that come with 2.0??? Sounds really , REALLY GOOD!!!

I like the "Superior 2.0 best" the best. The snare sounds really natural.
 
Im really digging the snare sound. As some said it sounds quite a bit like the textures drum kit. Kick drum is nice. Maybe a little more present though bit more weight and top end. Sounds great though!

nice one
 
I messed with the kit one more time and changed out the snare with a different drum. I also spent more time making the guitars and bass fatter. I like this one the most I think and the drums sound a little more natural. Its all done on headphones so I'll probably find plenty of issues when hear it on speakers. There's also a lot of clipping on the master buss during the tom grooves but I think it goes away when the toms stop.