My poor Recto...

Dylan S

Celephai
Feb 27, 2009
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Hi guys,

My band played a gig last night at a local pub that was a lot of fun. It was our band and then 3 sort of, comedy grind style acts - not my thing at all. The drummer from the last 2 bands was actually the drummer from The Berzerker so he was really good to watch and a really nice guy as well.

We played our set and then the next band came up and asked Nic (Bekanor) how many gigs we've played. Nic responded with "oh, about 8 or so?" and the guy came back with "oh you can tell because you're taking ages to move your shit off the stage". I would like to add that we really weren't taking ages!

They sucked anyway and had more of an emphasis on comedy rather than being a serious band. The band who was after them actually told us that they were playing a gig in Sydney the night before (about 2 hours drive from here) with the band who had a go at us and were sitting in Sydney at the time of soundcheck and the shit band hadn't even left our city yet. Go figure...

Anyway...the band 3rd band needed to use my guitar rig, which I am always happy to do because I like the idea of people plugging into something decent and having decent tone because SO many bands around here have shitty very loud bedroom tone and it just sounds awful. I had my Dual Recto and Stiletto cab all ready to go with my Decimator and OD and the guy INSISTED on just plugging into the clean channel and using his Korg multi-fx unit of some sort. :erk:

I tried to tell him that it'd just be easier to go through how I had it running because it sounded really good but he just didn't want any part of it. I understand that he might want to use what he was familiar with, but it was the most over-gained/over-scooped tone ever. It was just awful...my poor amp! Nic said he's glad it was my Recto and not the clean channel on his brand-spanking-new Mark V! :loco:

The guys after them needed my rig as well. The guitar player rocked up wanting to plug his metalzone into the clean channel but I insisted on him running my rig my way. He sounded much better for it too. :cool:
 
haha, innocence and arrogence!

im still an arse, i tend not to let kids use my setup these days, and i still insist on having my amp loud enough on stage when the monitoring guy/pa is shit, even though ive worked with some'knowledgeable' live engineers, if i cant hear it from my amp, them the mix is gnna be shit!
 
I'm 22. Nic is 25.

I find that around here there are VERY FEW people who care as much about tone and stage sound as us. There are some good friends who we've made in other bands (I'm talking 3 or 4 people) and then a bunch of other people who either don't care or think they've got AWESOME tone when really they just don't. One guy tried to imply that his Spider Valve was 'better' than a Recto because it had a Recto preset and then a WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER PRESETS!

A lot of my tone liking/caring about/etc is to do with this forum and also just in general really wanting to sound good so what we do translates well instead of just being a big boomy wall of mush. I'm not sure if other people have the same intent but it really seems that they don't at all.
 
crikey!! ive been gigging since i was 15 and my first setup was the metal zone into my VS65r

i thought i was being cocky at 18 about how to mic my cab up and get my tone!

but at least i knew what i was on about!

i still baffle live sound engineers these days! haha im 25 nrly 26 but there needs to be a learning curve, i think the metal zone era (luckily) was in the very late 90s early 00's) so hopefully it will fade out!
 
Has nothing to do with tone and everything to do with idiots thinking beer is ok to set on my amp. Doesn't necessarily have to be the guitarist doing it either (singer, bass player, doesn't matter a half stack seems to be just the right height for them to place the beer on), shit head bands have ZERO respect for shit that doesn't belong to them and would have no plans of paying me damages if there stupid ass spilled shit down my amp.
 
I don't really mind lending my gear to people. If I were in the situation where I needed to borrow some shit, I'd like to think that people would be kind enough to lend me stuff. I'm not the kind of dick who would ever abuse shit though.
 
Did a gig the other night. Guy spilled a bottle of beer behind my amp. I was fucking pissed off. Fortunately, it didn't actually go inside the amp, so it was only the stage that was covered in piss-warm beer.
 
I went to a show and helped the mixer out a bit (he's a friend of mine, had a broken hand at that time)
so I set up the mics on the guitar amp, the guitar player (they played bad modern rock) came in and said:
"Why do you use a mic? that's just way to old school, just use the direct out of this"
and gave me his Zoom Multifx (that tiny 60$ thing)-wanna know what his other stuff was?

PRS Single Cut, a PRS Mike Mushok Signature SE, a Morley Wah (than Zoom FX) into his
Mesa Boogie Triple Recto ("I need 150 watts because of the great headroom") into
Mesa 4x12.
His Recto was actually in a huge case with a Power conditioner in it and stuff...
He still sounded like shit!

The guy in the next band used a Ibanez RG321 into the Triple Recto and had a great sound.
 
I can understand boosting it with a metalzone but I can't understand going into the clean channel with a metalzone as your primary distorted sound.
 
I went to a show and helped the mixer out a bit (he's a friend of mine, had a broken hand at that time)
so I set up the mics on the guitar amp, the guitar player (they played bad modern rock) came in and said:
"Why do you use a mic? that's just way to old school, just use the direct out of this"
and gave me his Zoom Multifx (that tiny 60$ thing)-wanna know what his other stuff was?

PRS Single Cut, a PRS Mike Mushok Signature SE, a Morley Wah (than Zoom FX) into his
Mesa Boogie Triple Recto ("I need 150 watts because of the great headroom") into
Mesa 4x12.
His Recto was actually in a huge case with a Power conditioner in it and stuff...
He still sounded like shit!

The guy in the next band used a Ibanez RG321 into the Triple Recto and had a great sound.

Wow, what a dumbass hahaha