Need a very simple midi-to-audio free plugin

[Morgan C]

After my numerous failed attempts at getting Drumagog (and ApTrigga's demo) working as a Soft Synth in Sonar, I need to resort to this. At the moment I'm using Session Drummer in Sonar to convert MIDI to Audio but I dont use 99% of the features and its pretty CPU-intensive.
I just need a Soft Synth that will accept a MIDI track, let me select a single note, and just turn that into a trigger-like audio file, whether from its own samples or my own. And preferably free, I can't imagine something so simple would cost anything. Any suggestions?

 

[ahjteam]

Midi-to-audio are called synths and most of the good ones do cost money

 

[Morgan C]

I know, I don't want a good one. All I need it to do is to trigger Drumagog. So every time I play a specific MIDI note, it fires off an audio sample (a click or a beep or something, its volume dependent on the velocity of the MIDI note). Doesn't need to sound good, or anything, its just a trigger.

 

[ahjteam]

Drumagog intakes midi too AFAIK.

Features:
- Automatically replaces drum tracks with a variety of samples
- Compatible with WAV, AIF, and SDII samples and libraries
- MIDI Input and Output Capability
- Advanced Visual Triggering feature
- Sophisticated sample management
- Auto sample-rate conversion
- New triggering engine for the ultimate in accurate triggering
- Works with Pro Tools, Logic, Digital Performer, Cubase, Nuendo and more
- Comes with a massive 4GB drum sample collection including:
Rock Drums Drumagog Edition, Purrrfect Drums, Purrrfect Brushes,
NS Kit Free and Classic Drum Machines.
- Compatible with any VST, RTAS, or AU audio application
- Works directly with BFD (Platinum version only)

Check out the plugin archive at www.kvraudio.com

You can also use Majkens Grizzly, which is a free drum machine that takes in midi and outputs audio.

 

[Morgan C]

Thanks I'll check out those plugs later.

Drumagog does take MIDI input but Sonar doesn't seem to like using a VST as a Soft Synth.

 

[Rez]

Don't know if I'm getting the wrong end of the stick but maybe KTDrumtrigger is worth a look... You can find that on kvraudio.com as well.

 

[Deaf Ear]

AP Trigga comes with one called "spike gen". Don't know why you're having problems with the midi in on drumagog though. Are you sure you have it routed correctly?

 

[Machinated]

Midi-to-audio are called synths and most of the good ones do cost money

I think he actually needs a sampler......Synth's generate the signal, whearas a sampler triggers a sample

 

[006]

FWIW KTDrumTrigger does the opposite, Audio -> MIDI, to clarify what one poster suggested. The OP needs the other way around. Drumagog should handle MIDI input just fine...as well as apTrigga. Sonar is gay if it's not working correctly.

~006

 

[Morgan C]

@006
Sonar is indeed gay. I'm considering getting version 8 (using 6 atm) but I should be able to do this in version 6 anyway.

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=1550864 is the thread I've been working in on this matter. Others seem to have been able to get it to work but not me. If you want the full explanation, check that out.

To clarify further, I need something that converts a MIDI note into a burst of noise, or a click or a beep. Thats it.


Edit:
Just downloaded and tried Grizzly. Thats pretty much what I'm looking for, except even simpler. I'll use this if nothing else works, but I need a separate instance for each drum/cymbal. Grizzly offers 8 instances in the one plug-in, I want just a single instance (so theres less CPU-usage). If theres a program like this, please direct me to it, if not I'll just use Grizzly.

 

[Uladyne]

Thanks I'll check out those plugs later.

Drumagog does take MIDI input but Sonar doesn't seem to like using a VST as a Soft Synth.

Weird. The vast majority of my soft synths are VST. I'll check that cakewalk forum you posted momentarily, but all I can suggest before reading that is that you make sure you have drumagog enabled as a synth in the VST plugin configurator thingamajig. Otherwise, yea, it won't show up in your synths folder, and you won't be able to send midi to it.

Edit: okay, yea, I see you tried that already. Which brings me to my first conclusion: Weird.

If I had drumagog I'd try it out and see what the deal is. Maybe I can download a demo or something. I have Sonar 7, but as far back as I can remember, (I started with version 1) You've always been able to send a midi tracks output to a soft synth.

Edit #2: Ok, nevermind, I see you have a drumagog dude helping you. I can't think of any way I could help more than he can/is.

 

[Morgan C]

@Uladyne

Try with ApTrigga demo. Its free and basically the same, without many limitations (bursts of noise, etc.), and has the same problem. Its not a Drumagog problem but a problem with setting VST's as VSTi's.

 

[gorath23]

SuperDrumFX will do what you want. Runs off MIDI and allows you to load up dual/triple layer audio samples.

http://www.superdrumfx.com/index.php?language=2

 

[Suicide_As_Alibi]

If I was doing that in Sonar, I would try using Drumagog as a Soft Synth - I'd do it like this:

Add some other soft synth (something nice and simple, like Dynamite Cowbell! It gives you 6 notes to play with and uses fuck all of your CPU ), and then add Drumagog as a normal VST on the non-MIDI track that's created by the synth. Then on the last tab, enable MIDI input, and change the note to whatever one you've put your hits on.

Doing it that way also means you can put several instances of Drumagog on that track (say one and and one snare), each triggered by a different note on the same MIDI track.

It's not exactly what you're talking about because technically you're triggering from the output of the MIDI track (I think, and judging from the, but it does mean you only need one Soft Synth - whereas using Drumagog as the synth you'd a whole extra Soft Synth for every drum, which will be more CPU intensive.

Only problem is if you bypass the effects bin - then you die as a barrage of cowbell samples pummels you...

Steve

 

[if6was9]

if grizzlys workin for ya try shortcircuit and loopAzoid, same kinda things really with some different options. both are free VSTs too. i use these for drum replacement

 

[ahjteam]

http://www.kvraudio.com/get.php?mod...=1&win=1&free=1&com=1&un=1&sf=0&sort=1&rpp=15