New Trivium track

I've never heard an entire album, but from what I gather and the bits and pieces I've heard, they first played something metalcore-KSE-ish and then their last album pretty much sounded like justice-era Metallica, Souls of Black-era Testament..no?

so why is sounding like mid-late 90s thrash with modern production crappy and sounding like mid-late 90s thrash with mid-late 90s production good?

the only reasons I can think of is because either you are really nostalgic and have never been able to groove with newer sounding production, which isabel is not since she is like 17, or you are more interested in what scene the bands are from and what kind of people listen to the band than you are in the music.
 
I've never heard an entire album, but from what I gather and the bits and pieces I've heard, they first played something metalcore-KSE-ish and then their last album pretty much sounded like justice-era Metallica, Souls of Black-era Testament..no?

so why is sounding like mid-late 90s thrash with modern production crappy and sounding like mid-late 90s thrash with mid-late 90s production good?

the only reasons I can think of is because either you are really nostalgic and have never been able to groove with newer sounding production, which isabel is not since she is like 17, or you are more interested in what scene the bands are from and what kind of people listen to the band than you are in the music.

The guy has a point. It is considered cool now to dress like a metalhead from the mid-80's, and Isabel was born in like 1990 so it's not nostalgia. Not saying she doesn't like great bands like King Diamond, Sodom, and all the classic thrash, but the point has to be made that many people (not necessarily Isabel because I really don't know her...maybe it's true, maybe not) follow this whole old-thrash-made-new trend just as much as the followers of the modern metal movement. I dislike Trivium because I think their songs are vapid, shallow, boring, and unoriginal. It has nothing to do with the fact that everyone bashes on them for being modern. I'll tell you who I DO like, however: Black Tide.

Those little kids write great songs. I love the whole thrash n' roll thing they've got going on. Airborne is as boring as AC/DC (or are they the same band?) and most everyone else is dying or already dead.
 
Hey guess what, I like Black Tide too. Yeah I have a lot of band shirts and patches and a bullet belt, but you're all making it sound like I tease my hair and walk around in big white Reeboks and flip hats. I like music for music, and it just so happens that a lot of 80's metal is better than its more modern counterpart, and being condescending toward me isn't going to make me feel any differently.
 
Hey guess what, I like Black Tide too. Yeah I have a lot of band shirts and patches and a bullet belt, but you're all making it sound like I tease my hair and walk around in big white Reeboks and flip hats. I like music for music, and it just so happens that a lot of 80's metal is better than its more modern counterpart, and being condescending toward me isn't going to make me feel any differently.

That's fine and I didn't infer that you are at fault for anything other than liking heavy metal, which is not a fault at all. I was just commenting that your generation is on this whole thrash kick like it's something new and how they're somehow "cool" because they think they discovered something we've been screaming about for 20 years now. Like I said, I don't know if it applies to you because I don't know you, and I'm sure you're not some trend-following brainless zombie, but the youth of today has fallen victim to that.

I think that was the point Azal and myself were trying to make.

Although if you DID walk around in Reebok Pumps and flip hats, you'd be pretty cool. It's just so ironic that we were all given shit by the "popular" crowd when we were your age doing the same things and dressing the same way you all are dressing now, only it's somehow in fashion to do it.
 
Woah. Measured response not required.

These exact same accusations could be thrown at any generation, yours included. It's all folly.
 
Do you know who aren't shit? Sabaton....


I now await the mass disapproval of my above statement.
 
Although if you DID walk around in Reebok Pumps and flip hats, you'd be pretty cool. It's just so ironic that we were all given shit by the "popular" crowd when we were your age doing the same things and dressing the same way you all are dressing now, only it's somehow in fashion to do it.

Maybe there's something I'm missing, but at least in my high school being metal certainly didn't make me one of the cool kids.