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[Krigloch the Furious]

 

[Slayed Necros]

 

[EspaDa]

 

[EspaDa]

Side B of Stained Class is one of the greatest sides Judas Priest has ever laid down. Especially the run through "Saints in Hell," "Savage" and "Beyond the Realms of Death" and there's nothing as peak as that shit on Defenders of the Faith.

Spoiler

"White Heat, Red Hot" is a fucking killer track.



What're the best cuts on Defenders of the Faith to you? My top cut is "The Sentinel" for example.

It's a killer album but I have some small issues like it kinda feels samey to me and the production feels a bit flat. It lacks the dynamics that made 70's Priest sound so rich and ferocious. It also has shit like "Eat Me Alive" that isn't terrible but feels like cheesy filler to me. Just not my kind of thing. In fact side B of Defenders of the Faith is pretty abysmal compared to Stained Class' side B.

Agreed on side B of Stained Class - incredible, maybe with the exception of the last track. Savage is a fucking savage track!

My fav DotF tracks are the mentioned Sentinel, Rock Hard Ride Free (one of the best intro solos I've ever heard) and Jawbreaker. I'm also not huge on Eat Me Alive and Love Bites, these tracks are rather mediocre. I also agree that DotF might be a little samey, but these choruses, man. They are unmistakeable and simply beautiful. Stained Class suffers because Beyond the Realms of Death is such a spectacular track that it overshadows the rest of the album. On DotF we dont have such a problem since there are a couple of tracks which stand tall in line with others, not just one.

 

[CiG]

Stained Class suffers because Beyond the Realms of Death is such a spectacular track that it overshadows the rest of the album.

This is very retarded.

 

[EspaDa]

This is very retarded.

Is it? Elaborate please. Very similar to what happened to the album Turbo, with the exception that the other tracks were simply not so good. Everybody remembers these two albums only because of Beyond and Turbo Lover respectively, isn't it so?

 

[Burkhard]

 

[EspaDa]

 

[CiG]

 

[CiG]

@EspaDa I went back to look at the Judas Priest discography ranking thread and the only people that put Defenders of the Faith above Stained Class were you, @Baroque and @crimsonfloyd iirc. Defenders got BTFO'd, ranked 8th, meanwhile Stained ranked 2nd.

Just thought that was interesting since you acted like my position here was the crazy one lmao.

Also I forgot you had this dogshit take at the time:

The fact is that Sin After Sin is their worst 70's release.

This shit made me laugh all over again:

When I hear Halford sing "Put your hands on your hips!" I want to smash the record in half.

 

[EspaDa]

@EspaDa I went back to look at the Judas Priest discography ranking thread and the only people that put Defenders of the Faith above Stained Class were you, @Baroque and @crimsonfloyd iirc. Defenders got BTFO'd, ranked 8th, meanwhile Stained ranked 2nd.

Just thought that was interesting since you acted like my position here was the crazy one lmao.

Also I forgot you had this dogshit take at the time:


This shit made me laugh all over again:

I'd keenly do a JP discography ranking one more time; I'm much more competent nowadays than I was back then as far as their music is concenred.

But I maintain my view that Sin After Sin is their worst 70s release. That's absolutely true. The tracks on that album are hit or miss.

It would be sth like this now:

1. Sad Wings of Destiny
2. Painkiller
3. Defenders of the Faith
4. Firepower
5. Stained Class

 

[CiG]

Is it? Elaborate please. Very similar to what happened to the album Turbo, with the exception that the other tracks were simply not so good. Everybody remembers these two albums only because of Beyond and Turbo Lover respectively, isn't it so?

Yes, it is. "Beyond the Realms of Death" is a fantastic track but it's not so great that it ruins the entirety of Stained Class by making everything else sound bad by comparison. That's utterly and totally retarded.

Also how you have this position while simultaneously thinking Defenders of the Faith is one of the band's best even though you could argue that all the weak tracks on that album have a similar tainting effect is beyond me.

Sin After Sin is their worst 70s release.

1. Sad Wings of Destiny
2. Sin After Sin
3. Stained Class
4. Killing Machine
5. Rocka Rolla

 

[RadicalThrasher]

 

[CiG]

 

[Krigloch the Furious]

 

[dwellerINTHEdark]

 

[EspaDa]

Yes, it is. "Beyond the Realms of Death" is a fantastic track but it's not so great that it ruins the entirety of Stained Class by making everything else sound bad by comparison. That's utterly and totally retarded.

Also how you have this position while simultaneously thinking Defenders of the Faith is one of the band's best even though you could argue that all the weak tracks on that album have a similar tainting effect is beyond me.

1. Sad Wings of Destiny
2. Sin After Sin
3. Stained Class
4. Killing Machine
5. Rocka Rolla

Where's Painkiller on your list? Rocka Rolla in 5th? Come on, man, don't be pretentious.

DotF is one of their best cause its strongest tracks are one of their strongest cuts in their whole discography, whereas on Stained Class there is only one track aspiring to that title - Beyond the Realms of Death.

 

[EspaDa]

 

[CiG]

Where's Painkiller on your list?

Definitely up there. Definitely top 10.

Rocka Rolla in 5th? Come on, man, don't be pretentious.

Ha! You're accusing me of being pretentious as you say hilariously stupid shit like Sin After Sin is their worst 70's album? You must be trolling...

Rocka Rolla is an awesome album, definitely not their worst album by any stretch of the imagination, but it's also EASILY the weakest 70's album they did. There's nothing pretentious about this basic observation.

DotF is one of their best cause its strongest tracks are one of their strongest cuts in their whole discography, whereas on Stained Class there is only one track aspiring to that title - Beyond the Realms of Death.

Straight up a bullshit statement lmao. Like I already said, Stained Class' side B is one of their strongest sides ever laid down and Defenders of the Faith has one of the worst side B's by contrast.

 

[Sophii]

Really cool The Cure worship. Its a little more on the lo-fi cold wave kinda feel that Faith and Pornography had and more emphasis on synth work.