hey me again, to Oinkness first- my point is that opeth's musicianship enhances their songs, whereas some dream theater songs, are spoilt by sections devised for wankery without enhancing the music. For instance on ToT, Endless sacrifice has great intro verse and chorus parts, but what is all that shredding from the guitar and keys doing in the middle? Does it enhance the song? Is it particularly related to the rest of the song? Is it about note choice or phrasing or those things i love about the best petrucci solos (he's a big influence on my playing)? If you think it helps the song or shows mature songwriting then it's just a difference of opinion between us.
Also i've seen them twice and own the dvds, i know how tight they are, and admire them greatly, but i think their musicianship is the point of the band, not the music they write, which is often highly derivative of what they're listening to at the time, and constantly interrupted by what i would call tastelessness (that bizarre brass patch jordan uses in the Beyond This Life mid-section for instance, does he not have ears?!)
Sickboy, I've heard all those songs, i have 3 albs (awake, scenes and ToT) +change of seasons, which is one of the reasons i got a 7-string in the first place. I do not despise a band for playing music, that would be silly. I think DT's lyrics are horribly weak though, and that anyone who says james labrie has a great voice rather than being a melodramatic cheese merchant with no control on his vibrato is probably not a singer. In fact, they're the only band i regularly listen to that i have quite this many problems with.
disclaimer- all of the above is my OWN OPINION, for discussion if you want, but not abuse, cheers