Besides Devin Townsend, orphan land, into eternity, or Mercenary who else in your opinion may be a good oddball band?
I'm looking for more good oddball bands .
I'm looking for more good oddball bands .
Oddball bands?
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Basically any real progressive band I see as an oddball band for Prog-Power, based on the lineups over the years.
Wolverine- Two completely different albums spanning many different genres. They have played Prog Power Europe and would be a great addition to a future PP USA.
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That said....I'll whip out some of my list.
Ulver
Arcturus
Fantomas (maybe too oddball, but I could see the allstar lineup being a major attraction)
Solefald
Spastic Ink
Atrox (with Monika)
Age Of Silence
Winds
Farmakon
Subterranean Masquerade
Frantic Bleep
Vintersorg
Scholomance (reunion)
Ulver
Arcturus
Fantomas (maybe too oddball, but I could see the allstar lineup being a major attraction)
Solefald
Spastic Ink
Atrox (with Monika)
Age Of Silence
Winds
Farmakon
Subterranean Masquerade
Frantic Bleep
Vintersorg
Scholomance (reunion)
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Barking Pumpkin said:
Every now and then I have to do this. My apologies to everyone but professional promoter mode off....
Personal mode on....
BP,
You epitomize the "prob snob" label.
As for the above comment, you can fuck off.
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JosephAcevedo said:
I knew nothing of Pain of Salvation coming in for last year's progpower and now I'm a big fan of their music. I would recommend them, it emphasizes atmosphere over technicality (in my own opinion) but I'd tell you to start with The Perfect Elemet or Remedy Lane they are both great.
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Okay......I shouldn't have phrased it that way. But I respectfully disagree with you on this issue.
I hate boundaries in music. Real progressive music is no boundaries. And the problem is, that all of the bands are so different, and many of the bands I posted are basically completely unrelated, and you would never see a tour between the two bands. I basically see a trend of having one or two progressive, what would be called oddball bands pre Prog-Power. Even so, I couldn't ever see most of the bands I mentioned appearing at Prog-Power, because they would just be so out of place, because that's the definition of progressive. Prog-Power II is the most balanced lineup in my opinion of real progressive, prog, and power metal.
Some specific examples.....
Band: Fantomas
Influences: John Zorn
Scene: Avant-Garde Jazz (but they're still metal)
Band: Solefald
Influences: black metal, classical, prog-rock
Scene: Norway's Post-Black Scene
Band: Spastic Ink
Influences: Watchtower (duh), modern chromatic music
Scene: American progressive metal (thrash fans/"prog freaks")
On the other hand, I think most of the even "prog" bands at Prog-Power could be identified with a more standard set of influences, even if they are from different countries. It's more of a set of influences, and then an x factor that gives them their own sound.
You can't deny the huge chasm between bands that are prog as in changing rhythms, time signatures, lots of solos,(Dream Theater/classic prog-rock influenced) and then the progressive bands that are breaking boundaries and doing new things, sometimes labelled as "avant-garde." (no standard set of influences) Pain Of Salvation basically have it great because they are truly progressive, but still are in the arena enough to go over well at Prog-Power. Orphaned Land are the oddball this year. What connection do they have "scene-wise" to the other bands? Nothing. Their sound is still standard "metal" enough to go over decently with most of the Prog-Power crowd. It seems so obvious, for example not having many bands from The End Records, who are even a merchandiser at the festival. They're metal. They're progressive. But they don't fit with what the general "feel" of the festival is. Based on my feelings from this forum, I can imagine what the reaction would be like if Fantomas or Solefald or Ulver or something were thrown in, it would be like throwing a wrench in the whole operation.
To stress, I have no issues with the festival, the lineup, or anything, it's very well done. I'm just calling it how I see it. I simply respectfully disagree with your assessment of progressive music vs. prog-metal.
I hate boundaries in music. Real progressive music is no boundaries. And the problem is, that all of the bands are so different, and many of the bands I posted are basically completely unrelated, and you would never see a tour between the two bands. I basically see a trend of having one or two progressive, what would be called oddball bands pre Prog-Power. Even so, I couldn't ever see most of the bands I mentioned appearing at Prog-Power, because they would just be so out of place, because that's the definition of progressive. Prog-Power II is the most balanced lineup in my opinion of real progressive, prog, and power metal.
Some specific examples.....
Band: Fantomas
Influences: John Zorn
Scene: Avant-Garde Jazz (but they're still metal)
Band: Solefald
Influences: black metal, classical, prog-rock
Scene: Norway's Post-Black Scene
Band: Spastic Ink
Influences: Watchtower (duh), modern chromatic music
Scene: American progressive metal (thrash fans/"prog freaks")
On the other hand, I think most of the even "prog" bands at Prog-Power could be identified with a more standard set of influences, even if they are from different countries. It's more of a set of influences, and then an x factor that gives them their own sound.
You can't deny the huge chasm between bands that are prog as in changing rhythms, time signatures, lots of solos,(Dream Theater/classic prog-rock influenced) and then the progressive bands that are breaking boundaries and doing new things, sometimes labelled as "avant-garde." (no standard set of influences) Pain Of Salvation basically have it great because they are truly progressive, but still are in the arena enough to go over well at Prog-Power. Orphaned Land are the oddball this year. What connection do they have "scene-wise" to the other bands? Nothing. Their sound is still standard "metal" enough to go over decently with most of the Prog-Power crowd. It seems so obvious, for example not having many bands from The End Records, who are even a merchandiser at the festival. They're metal. They're progressive. But they don't fit with what the general "feel" of the festival is. Based on my feelings from this forum, I can imagine what the reaction would be like if Fantomas or Solefald or Ulver or something were thrown in, it would be like throwing a wrench in the whole operation.
To stress, I have no issues with the festival, the lineup, or anything, it's very well done. I'm just calling it how I see it. I simply respectfully disagree with your assessment of progressive music vs. prog-metal.
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I don't mean that there's anything wrong with playing or liking prog-metal either. It's not really what I listen to a lot, but I don't like it when people act like there's no difference. They're basically two different genres.
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As much as I like some of the more "out there" stuff, I'd love to see Mike Keneally play to the Prog Power audience, but I know it's not going to happen. While MK and his band have the chops to hang with a lot of the other bands, I think few people would appreciate it as it's not metal, and not prog metal. Not being "snobby", just being realistic. His stuff (as well as the bands you mentioned) are more suited for Prog Day & Nearfest.
I still think that Freak Kitchen would turn a lot of heads as the "oddball band" simply because they are more closer to the genres that this festival caters to. Hell, I found out about them while searching out some Zappa stuff back in the Napster days. Been a huge fan ever since.
Oh, and if PC 69 goes over well, perhaps
Glenn would consider Talisman. :Spin:
Same kind of music, heavy rock with tons of chops.
I think Glenn does a kickass job with this festival. I'm down to one mini-vacation per year, and Glenn & Co. get top priority every year. Even if PoS plays, I know there will be plenty of other bands that will put my ass out on the mainfloor once the festival weekend arrives...
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Whoah. Now I'm going to check out Prog Day and Nearfest. I don't recognize anything (besides Mike Keneally) at Prog Day, although that's nice and close, but I recognized quite a few in the Nearfest history. Thanks for that. ^_^
I'd put a vote in for Freak Kitchen. If Pink Cream 69 have a good reception I can't imagine why Freak Kitchen wouldn't work. Their guitarist seems to have some big Steve Vai influences also, which is always awesome.
I'd put a vote in for Freak Kitchen. If Pink Cream 69 have a good reception I can't imagine why Freak Kitchen wouldn't work. Their guitarist seems to have some big Steve Vai influences also, which is always awesome.
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Some people were discussing Opeth and Prog-Power a while ago. If you like Opeth, I would recommend listening to Farmakon for an "oddball". I've listened and listened to 'Blackwater Park,' and it's just a little too bland for my ears. I gave another whirl to my used 'A Warm Glimpse' album the other day, and it's really awesome. They have a sound similar to Opeth, but then it seems to be a lot more active, free, and they jazz it up a lot more than Opeth, but still keep it heavy, and a mix of harsh and clean vocals.
Coincidentally, a bunch of these bands have their forums right here on UM.
Coincidentally, a bunch of these bands have their forums right here on UM.
Well, let's not knock the prog snobs. They are an integral part of the scene, along with the power freaks whose most intelligent utterance at the festival will be "METALLLLL!!!!!"
Personally, I like both styles without getting into the extreme envelope-pushing of prog and without listening to every mediocre power metal band that comes along. "Have you heard the new Celesty album? It rocks!!!"
Personally, I like both styles without getting into the extreme envelope-pushing of prog and without listening to every mediocre power metal band that comes along. "Have you heard the new Celesty album? It rocks!!!"
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LOL, See how I am not the only person that thinks that?
Anyway...
other few good oddballs : Wintersun, Brazilian-based Avec Tristesse (Great band) and of course, Anathema.
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Anathema would definitely be an oddball. Has Prog-Power ever had any mellow bands like that? It doesn't seem like it, besides Pain Of Salvation, who are a bit mellow. I was thinking about stuff like Winds, which is quite accessible, but it's rather mellow in general compared to other things.
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I would love to see mellower bands at PP. We cant forget to mention Riverside (although not really an oddball) and Antimatter (same thing).
How about Antimatter as well? The Gathering? =D (not oddballs)
How about Antimatter as well? The Gathering? =D (not oddballs)
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I would really like to see Throne of Chaos, they are a progressive death (if you had to categorize them).
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