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Hawk said:
Seriously though, I like reading. I almost read no fiction. I like to read history, philosophy and history of economic thought.
Would you also be interested in musical history lessons then? I´m not talking about music history, but music whose lyrics deal with historical subjects, written in some sort of (auto-)biographical way. Actually, I´m thinking about two albums, though I suppose you probably wouldn´t go wild for the music (maybe a bit of understatement here or am I totally wrong?) - in one case it´s country mixed with Norwegian and Irish folk influences and in the other case it´s, hm...I´d like to avoid the word "pop", because then you might think of stuff like Britney, while it is in fact lightyears away from that..I think I´ll try to find some soundsamples and post a link so you can figure out for yourself what it is.
The albums I´m talking about are Tom Russell´s "The Man From God Knows Where", which is IMO an excellent lesson in American immigration history (told by the example of the history of Tom´s own family whose origins were Irish and Norwegian), and Kari Bremnes´ "Svarta Bjørn". As I´m too lazy to explain in my own words what the latter is about, I´ll just give my English translation (I already wrote it some years ago) of the introductory words Kari Bremnes wrote to this album (because I don´t think there are many here who would understand the original Norwegian text:D ):
“One of the most myth-covered chapters in the history of Northern Norway deals with the construction of Europe´s most northern railway, the Ofot-Railway. It was built under difficult circumstances through a wild and inaccessable landscape. In just four years migrant workers managed to erect this railway from Kiruna to Narvik. Much has been written, sung and not less passed on orally about the migrant workers´ life and the bloody work along the border. It were mainly Swedes and Norwegians who worked at the railway, but there were also people from all over Europe trying their luck. It all must have been comparable to Klondyke in a certain way, afterwards there has also come a romantic shimmer over this relentlessly exhausting life – something that often happens when reality becomes unreal. In this mostly male society there were also some women, cooks, who shared the hard living conditions of the migrant workers. There´s few documentation about them, but many myths do exist, and it were mainly men to whom these women owe their reputation. Such a “migrant worker´s rose” was Svarta Bjørn. A legendary figure, who has been living in people´s oral tradition for nearly hundred years. In these songs she´s telling her own story, thus it´s been possible to build it on the background of oral traditions. She comments the myths about her herself, which are many and questioned, and no-one can surely tell who she actually was. No-one can surely tell if it´s her, who lies buried at the migrant worker´s cemetary in Tornehamn under the white cross incribed ANNA-Norge. People believed it´s her lying there, but date and year of her death have been changed several times. Why? Did she suffer a dramatic death at the age of 22, after only two years at the railway? Is her name Anne Rebecka Hofsted from Utskarpen near Nesna? At the end in Nils A. Ytreberg´s novel “Svarta Bjørn”, the author puts the following words in the mouth of the migrant worker who became her big love, after she´s been escorted to her grave: “Once there will be sung a different song about her – about Svarta Bjørn!”. It´s this song that I want to sing now.”

Do you think you might be interested in these lyrics, Hawk? (You can still read the lyrics without having to listen to the music!:D ) Or did I perhaps totally misunderstand you insofar that you actually are only interested in mere history facts written from a neutral/objective point of view?
 
Burkhard said:
Would you also be interested in musical history lessons then? I´m not talking about music history, but music whose lyrics deal with historical subjects, written in some sort of (auto-)biographical way. Actually, I´m thinking about two albums, though I suppose you probably wouldn´t go wild for the music (maybe a bit of understatement here or am I totally wrong?) - in one case it´s country mixed with Norwegian and Irish folk influences and in the other case it´s, hm...I´d like to avoid the word "pop", because then you might think of stuff like Britney, while it is in fact lightyears away from that..I think I´ll try to find some soundsamples and post a link so you can figure out for yourself what it is.
The albums I´m talking about are Tom Russell´s "The Man From God Knows Where", which is IMO an excellent lesson in American immigration history (told by the example of the history of Tom´s own family whose origins were Irish and Norwegian), and Kari Bremnes´ "Svarta Bjørn". As I´m too lazy to explain in my own words what the latter is about, I´ll just give my English translation (I already wrote it some years ago) of the introductory words Kari Bremnes wrote to this album (because I don´t think there are many here who would understand the original Norwegian text:D ):
“One of the most myth-covered chapters in the history of Northern Norway deals with the construction of Europe´s most northern railway, the Ofot-Railway. It was built under difficult circumstances through a wild and inaccessable landscape. In just four years migrant workers managed to erect this railway from Kiruna to Narvik. Much has been written, sung and not less passed on orally about the migrant workers´ life and the bloody work along the border. It were mainly Swedes and Norwegians who worked at the railway, but there were also people from all over Europe trying their luck. It all must have been comparable to Klondyke in a certain way, afterwards there has also come a romantic shimmer over this relentlessly exhausting life – something that often happens when reality becomes unreal. In this mostly male society there were also some women, cooks, who shared the hard living conditions of the migrant workers. There´s few documentation about them, but many myths do exist, and it were mainly men to whom these women owe their reputation. Such a “migrant worker´s rose” was Svarta Bjørn. A legendary figure, who has been living in people´s oral tradition for nearly hundred years. In these songs she´s telling her own story, thus it´s been possible to build it on the background of oral traditions. She comments the myths about her herself, which are many and questioned, and no-one can surely tell who she actually was. No-one can surely tell if it´s her, who lies buried at the migrant worker´s cemetary in Tornehamn under the white cross incribed ANNA-Norge. People believed it´s her lying there, but date and year of her death have been changed several times. Why? Did she suffer a dramatic death at the age of 22, after only two years at the railway? Is her name Anne Rebecka Hofsted from Utskarpen near Nesna? At the end in Nils A. Ytreberg´s novel “Svarta Bjørn”, the author puts the following words in the mouth of the migrant worker who became her big love, after she´s been escorted to her grave: “Once there will be sung a different song about her – about Svarta Bjørn!”. It´s this song that I want to sing now.”

Do you think you might be interested in these lyrics, Hawk? (You can still read the lyrics without having to listen to the music!:D ) Or did I perhaps totally misunderstand you insofar that you actually are only interested in mere history facts written from a neutral/objective point of view?


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Burkhard said:
Would you also be interested in musical history lessons then? I´m not talking about music history, but music whose lyrics deal with historical subjects, written in some sort of (auto-)biographical way. Actually, I´m thinking about two albums, though I suppose you probably wouldn´t go wild for the music (maybe a bit of understatement here or am I totally wrong?) - in one case it´s country mixed with Norwegian and Irish folk influences and in the other case it´s, hm...I´d like to avoid the word "pop", because then you might think of stuff like Britney, while it is in fact lightyears away from that..I think I´ll try to find some soundsamples and post a link so you can figure out for yourself what it is.
The albums I´m talking about are Tom Russell´s "The Man From God Knows Where", which is IMO an excellent lesson in American immigration history (told by the example of the history of Tom´s own family whose origins were Irish and Norwegian), and Kari Bremnes´ "Svarta Bjørn". As I´m too lazy to explain in my own words what the latter is about, I´ll just give my English translation (I already wrote it some years ago) of the introductory words Kari Bremnes wrote to this album (because I don´t think there are many here who would understand the original Norwegian text:D ):
“One of the most myth-covered chapters in the history of Northern Norway deals with the construction of Europe´s most northern railway, the Ofot-Railway. It was built under difficult circumstances through a wild and inaccessable landscape. In just four years migrant workers managed to erect this railway from Kiruna to Narvik. Much has been written, sung and not less passed on orally about the migrant workers´ life and the bloody work along the border. It were mainly Swedes and Norwegians who worked at the railway, but there were also people from all over Europe trying their luck. It all must have been comparable to Klondyke in a certain way, afterwards there has also come a romantic shimmer over this relentlessly exhausting life – something that often happens when reality becomes unreal. In this mostly male society there were also some women, cooks, who shared the hard living conditions of the migrant workers. There´s few documentation about them, but many myths do exist, and it were mainly men to whom these women owe their reputation. Such a “migrant worker´s rose” was Svarta Bjørn. A legendary figure, who has been living in people´s oral tradition for nearly hundred years. In these songs she´s telling her own story, thus it´s been possible to build it on the background of oral traditions. She comments the myths about her herself, which are many and questioned, and no-one can surely tell who she actually was. No-one can surely tell if it´s her, who lies buried at the migrant worker´s cemetary in Tornehamn under the white cross incribed ANNA-Norge. People believed it´s her lying there, but date and year of her death have been changed several times. Why? Did she suffer a dramatic death at the age of 22, after only two years at the railway? Is her name Anne Rebecka Hofsted from Utskarpen near Nesna? At the end in Nils A. Ytreberg´s novel “Svarta Bjørn”, the author puts the following words in the mouth of the migrant worker who became her big love, after she´s been escorted to her grave: “Once there will be sung a different song about her – about Svarta Bjørn!”. It´s this song that I want to sing now.”

Do you think you might be interested in these lyrics, Hawk? (You can still read the lyrics without having to listen to the music!:D ) Or did I perhaps totally misunderstand you insofar that you actually are only interested in mere history facts written from a neutral/objective point of view?
YES! I would be very interested! So called oral history is veery importand even thought it brings some problems. But those are for the historian to sort out. If you have a link for me. I would be gratefull. I would not mind hearing the music also :)

Thanks for bringing this up. :worship:
 
Name the artist, quick!

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of the painting of course :err:
 
Hawk said:
H. R. Giger

Of Celtic Frost cover and Oscar winning Alien design.
Have I won something?? ;)
The honor of being quick and cultivated...or a kiss with tongue from the Alien :lol:
 
WC, you are...a case! It says Debbie Harry on the right top corner isn't it.

Next case:

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ok, here are some great album covers, who knows who has painted these (hey Fang, let the others guess...yeah it's a French guy)...
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baldyboy said:
thats not a boris vallejo by any chance?havnt seen any of his work for ages but it looks like his.
Nacht! Is not Boris, but at least you know about fantasy art :D .

I don't know the artist but Alan Douches was the engineer both in Exxplorer and Manilla Road.
 
carnut said:
ok, here are some great album covers, who knows who has painted these (hey Fang, let the others guess...yeah it's a French guy)...
I have all albums you show here on vinyl. :)
Damn good albums to. My favorite is the Heir Apparent album. Terry Goirle rules!!
 
~metal_maiden~ said:
Meh... got home from work a little while ago. I'm just chillin' to some Twisted Sister... :p I saw the movie Troy on Saturday night. It's actually a very good film. I only went to see it for Orlando Bloom but I was surprised. I'm gonna go see it again... for those who haven't seen it yet... go check it out!

Hell yeah!! I'm really into the Iliad and the Odyssey and was blistering to see it, Mythology in general is lesiure reading for me. So I seen the first showing I could, but I must say I was not impressed with either Brad Pitt or Orlando Bloom . I think that Brad pitt was only casted because of his looks rather than his acting talents. Dont get me wrong, I think he's good, but he did a pretty bad job capturing Achilles. I hate Orlando Bloom, but he portrayed a great Paris. Over all I thought it was good, like I said I'm a huge critic when it comes to this Epic adventure.
 
Fangface said:
@carnut : yeah E.L. was the official artist for Black Dragon artworks, he's damn gifted!

yeah, I loved the way even the inner sleeves of the Black Dragon records were decorated by EL ...