Enough disturbing the other threads.
Let me start over and just state my actual position here without any of the things that have started a flame war. We've both just misrepresented this debate too much all around.
To begin with, I REALLY have no quarrel with any of the innovating bands in this tournament. Some of them I even like. Metallica made some excellent music, Black Sabbath is a band I'll occasionally enjoy and even Maiden is fun at times. None of these band are acts that I hate or even dislike. I've made a lot of sarcastic comments trying to make a point and they've been taken way too literally, so let's just stop that.
Now, like I said, I only put bands on a level according to how much their music means to me PERSONALLY. Not only in this tournament, but in real life. I don't have a tendency to give any more respect or credit to a band because of time/age, influence or overall importance, only on what they mean to me. The entire point of these long drawn out discussions has been myself trying to decipher if anyone else feels this way, and if not, how do they put a value to the music they listen to?
Why this question was brought up was because X legendary band has steamrolled everyone else they've faced, leading me to think that either a) people here enjoy this band's music THAT MUCH or b) there is a nostalgia factor at play or people value and rank their music on a much different system than I do. For me to say something like I prefer Blood Red Throne to Metallica, a ridiculous statement to almost everyone here (henke where art thou
) you have to know that Blood Red Throne's music simply does more for me. It just seems like to me, that whenever I make a statement like that, it is roundly attacked by everyone and the only conclusion I can draw from that is that everyone is stuck on these bands for one reason or another and all I'd like to know is why. Is it even possible for say JK (sorry to keep using you as an example ) to EVER like a band as much as Maiden or Megadeth or what have you, even if he say, listens to their music more often or somehow takes more out of it. Purely hypothetical, and maybe not true, I'm just trying to pick at it here.
I WOULD vote for a band over Opeth, in fact, if it came down to it, maybe even a handful of bands in the right situation. Agalloch for instance, may be able to steal that vote from me even though Opeth may still hold the title of favorite band and despite the fact that they introduced me to metal, simply because I listen to and at many times get more out of Agalloch's music.
Now, if at all possible, I'd like everyone to drop any misconceptions they have, as will I, and start anew. If this post, which doesn't attack anything (even in a tongue in cheek manner) still manages to inflame you, then there isn't anything I can do, it's just an honest question that seems hard to get an answer for.
I've have clearly poked fun at Maiden and other bands in the past and ADMITTED that I was trolling and ADMITTED that it wasn't the way I really feel and that it has misrepresented my argument, now look at it with unbiased eyes and give me a simple answer.
If you really love Maiden's music that much, then just say so. If you really factor in something else, then just say so. I don't hate your bands, I don't prefer music because it's new. Just no. Clean slate, new topic, answer question.
Let me start over and just state my actual position here without any of the things that have started a flame war. We've both just misrepresented this debate too much all around.
To begin with, I REALLY have no quarrel with any of the innovating bands in this tournament. Some of them I even like. Metallica made some excellent music, Black Sabbath is a band I'll occasionally enjoy and even Maiden is fun at times. None of these band are acts that I hate or even dislike. I've made a lot of sarcastic comments trying to make a point and they've been taken way too literally, so let's just stop that.
Now, like I said, I only put bands on a level according to how much their music means to me PERSONALLY. Not only in this tournament, but in real life. I don't have a tendency to give any more respect or credit to a band because of time/age, influence or overall importance, only on what they mean to me. The entire point of these long drawn out discussions has been myself trying to decipher if anyone else feels this way, and if not, how do they put a value to the music they listen to?
Why this question was brought up was because X legendary band has steamrolled everyone else they've faced, leading me to think that either a) people here enjoy this band's music THAT MUCH or b) there is a nostalgia factor at play or people value and rank their music on a much different system than I do. For me to say something like I prefer Blood Red Throne to Metallica, a ridiculous statement to almost everyone here (henke where art thou
) you have to know that Blood Red Throne's music simply does more for me. It just seems like to me, that whenever I make a statement like that, it is roundly attacked by everyone and the only conclusion I can draw from that is that everyone is stuck on these bands for one reason or another and all I'd like to know is why. Is it even possible for say JK (sorry to keep using you as an example ) to EVER like a band as much as Maiden or Megadeth or what have you, even if he say, listens to their music more often or somehow takes more out of it. Purely hypothetical, and maybe not true, I'm just trying to pick at it here.I WOULD vote for a band over Opeth, in fact, if it came down to it, maybe even a handful of bands in the right situation. Agalloch for instance, may be able to steal that vote from me even though Opeth may still hold the title of favorite band and despite the fact that they introduced me to metal, simply because I listen to and at many times get more out of Agalloch's music.
Now, if at all possible, I'd like everyone to drop any misconceptions they have, as will I, and start anew. If this post, which doesn't attack anything (even in a tongue in cheek manner) still manages to inflame you, then there isn't anything I can do, it's just an honest question that seems hard to get an answer for.
I've have clearly poked fun at Maiden and other bands in the past and ADMITTED that I was trolling and ADMITTED that it wasn't the way I really feel and that it has misrepresented my argument, now look at it with unbiased eyes and give me a simple answer.
If you really love Maiden's music that much, then just say so. If you really factor in something else, then just say so. I don't hate your bands, I don't prefer music because it's new. Just no. Clean slate, new topic, answer question.
