post metal?

[genocide roach]

do you think this has become a real sub-genre for metal or is it just a form of progressive metal? does it relate closely to post-rock? is it just heavy post-rock?

some bands that come to mind:
pelican
neurosis
mouth of the architect
isis
intronaut

~gR~

 

[The Ozzman]

Why is it called post-metal?

 

[PiratesRule]

If you see post-rock as a real sub-genre, I see no reason why a band couldn't be seen as post-metal. Although they do have some dark and progressive metal elements they aren't really either one.... So basically, I see it as a real sub-genre.

 

[genocide roach]

Why is it called post-metal?

i dont know, i just saw it on wikipedia.

ive always thought of bands like age of silence, later borknagar, and negura bunget as post black metal. but i think thats a bit different from post metal, though i dont really know why.
~gR~

 

[zoidberg]

why cant post black metal be a subgenre of post metal?
and if it is post metal, does that mean that metal has come and gone and now this is the stuff after it?

 

[The Ozzman]

What makes it 'post-' though?

Why can't it just be instrumental metal or something (Pelican)?

 

[Zephyrus]

I like me some post-black metal...

Arcturus
The Kovenant
Samael
Cronian
Emperor
Summoning

 

[General Zaroff]

What the fuck?

 

[AchrisK]

I have always been confused by the "post-" modifier. What does it really mean?

 

[Zephyrus]

For post-black metal I've used the term loosely, using it for bands who start out as black metal and progress away from it. I like these kinds of bands because they tend have an interesting transition period where elements of black metal and elements of their future styles are combined.

 

[thisisaformicatable]

why cant post black metal be a subgenre of post metal?

Post-metal tends to mean (post-rock + metal) while post-black is often used to describe bands with nothing to do with post-rock. "Post-black metal" and "avante-garde black metal" seem to be interchangeable.

Post-black and avante-garde black are both pretty misleading terms though, just like "progressive" - they usually describe a specific sound rather than actual progression or innovation.

 

[Alter]

To me "Post-" means the natural progression of how a certain genre evolves. So for Post-Black metal, Darkthrone would be black metal has they have a the normal BM sound and Blut Aus Nord would be Post-Black Metal has it is more than what normal Black Metal is but is still under the black metal genre.

Their are a lot of good Post-Metal bands...

jesu
Boris
ISIS
Blut Aus Nord

 

[zabu of nΩd]

What a retarded genre label. Almost as bad as "avantgarde metal".

 

[unknown]

goddammit there already is a "post black metal" thread.


*off to find it and merge*

edit: nevermind it wasn't a very good thread worth dredging up

 

[zabu of nΩd]

 

[zabu of nΩd]

Btw, would Agalloch be considered post-black? They're pretty similar to BM in style (and, I think, theme), just not in mood.

 

[unknown]

In the literal sense, perhaps (sense they "fuse" black metal and post rock). "Post black metal" usually refers to Ved Buens Ende and Fleurety, but has been expanded (somehow) to include Arcuturs, Meads of Asphodel, Ephel Duath, Solefald, etc...

 

[DarkBliss]

Oh, that reminds me, I still haven't heard Virus. From what I read about their album Carheart it's a continuation of VBE's sound just stripped of all BM elements. Sounds interesting.

Also , are Korova(stupid name) any good?

 

[RockMyMonkey]

I always thought that band's like neurosis & mouth of the architect were more atmospheric. I think people say "Post-Metal" because "Atmospheric-Metal" doesn't flow off the tongue as well.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Post- = containing elements of genre after "post-" but with a different direction altogether.