Question for low tuning guys
- Thread starter korpse pop
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Yeah, it's all preference of course, but I can't stand it! (ironically, I seem to prefer a thicker set of the top-3 strings than most, but a thinner bottom string). And I definitely don't think they use baritones, though I haven't really paid 'em much attention in the past couple of years
cobhc
Amiga Enthusiast
Sorry, didn't mention that Mike Amott used to use 24.75" scale guitars, and the baritones are only for the songs in A#.
Eschatologist
Member
Arch Enemy haven't always been in C, have the? At least the first two albums are B tuning, like Carcass.......?
Eschatologist
Member
Having JUST upgraded from an unwound to a wound 3rd, I can state it was a night and day difference for the better for my B tuned guitar...
cobhc
Amiga Enthusiast
Yes, all the albums up to Wages Of Sin were in B, I don't know what string gauge they used back then, and if they used a wound 3rd string.
Edit: I assume they used the 12-56 set with an unwound G that was mentioned for Carcass, when they were in B.
Edit: I assume they used the 12-56 set with an unwound G that was mentioned for Carcass, when they were in B.
It's not a wound g string, its a wound d string. If you were tuning to E would you use a plain D? It sounds crap honestly. And the longer the scale the better for downtuning to a point. I like baritone 6's and 7's, but always think 7's should be longer. My 26.5" hellraiser just wasnt long enough for Bb without goin .070. ~27" with a 0.68 sounds about right.
mondocane
Member
Baritone = 7 string for noobs
possibly, but B or drop A most of the times sounds heavier and roars "clearer" on a baritone. the longer the scale, the better? ;-)
Jaymz
Stymphalian Productions
Yeah half an inch longer scale, but its missing a top string! Where TEH SHREEEDZ!?!? :Smokin::Smokin::Smokin:
slashvanyoung
Dopefish lives!
Oh come on, it's typically common to refer to the 3rd string as the "g string", no matter which tuning you're in...
mondocane
Member
Yeah half an inch longer scale, but its missing a top string! Where TEH SHREEEDZ!?!? :Smokin::Smokin::Smokin:
oh I am a bass player so no shred missing here, lol!
plus to me real baritone starts from no less than 28", so it's at least one inch and a half more than most 7 strings.
Jaymz
Stymphalian Productions
Heh I have no problem with baritones really, infact I got one after id been playing for about a year, I didn't understand why the strings were so thick...bad choice.
Ive never played anything past a 27" scale, wouldnt mind trying a longer 7 but my 26.5" Hellraiser isnt too shabby so I can't complain. I might up the gauge someday but im still skeptical about a .70.
mondocane
Member
hellraiser C-7? I guess 0.70 ain't exactly a shredder dream then... are you tuning it down? that gauge is usually recommended for a 6 string 25.5" down to B or even A.
Jaymz
Stymphalian Productions
Personally I stick to standard, Bb at a push but a few guys on here said they use a .70 on top, like Jeff Loomis who tunes to Bb. Im used to "shredding" on fairly weighty strings not a problem, but surely .70 must just feel stupidly tight with minimal crunch on the bottom end?
Erik Monsonis
Member
24,75" Caparison Horus tuned down to Drop B with elixir's 0.12-0.68 string set (g string unwound).
I've never played better in low tunings, it's just awesome.
I've never played better in low tunings, it's just awesome.
Jaymz
Stymphalian Productions
Did you need a setup on your guitar after that? Due to the neck tension increase?
Im tempted to try it but I don't want to A) Spend the money and fine I don't like it and B) Cock the guitar fit up, in which case I need to take it to a tech.
mondocane
Member
I have a different perspective so I cannot advise you on that matter [shred et al], but 0.60, 0.62 should be tight / high tension enough on a hellraiser C-7.
p.s. 0.68 usually fits on the hellraiser without any mod, maybe have a go at that gauge if you wanna try heavier strings. or buy a 10-52 set and add a single 0.70 string if you dig Loomis...
Erik Monsonis
Member
I got the guitar from the store in E with 0.9-0.42 strings and stock pickups, so I took it to my tech and told him to give me back a killer machine.
I paid and he gave it to me fully set up. I would never dare on putting 0.12-0.68 strings on any guitar myself as it would surely need a setup and i'm a noob when it comes to that...
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