Recording a new band need some help.

[benjy]

Hey guys I'm about to start working on a new project and need some pointers. The sound is going to be more of a hardcore type deal than full on metal. I'm looking for a sound similiar to Hundredth and the new Bring Me The Horizon record. So I'm searching for a new amp and wondered what you dudes thought would work best for a sound similiar to those listed.
For some side info, if it makes a difference... I'll be dual tracking with a single sm57 into my focusrite pro 24 into Logic Pro. For drums, superior (if you have any good suggestions to get a good drum sound let me know) I'm really trying to get a good beefy natural sound not a super polished metal record. Thanks guys!

 

[JeffTD]

What amp/cab do you already have?

 

[benjy]

Currently nothing. I've have owned a jsx and 6505 in the past as well as a Marshall cab. I really liked the 6505 which I will probably go back to. Just looking for other options. Maybe a combo or something.

 

[JeffTD]

5150 and Mesa cab is really hard to go wrong with. It can do beefy/natural as well as polished, just depends on the amount of tracks you do, how tight the guitars are, and how high you've got the gain/presence/mids.

The JSX will be a bit more versatile, but the 5150 will also definitely work. I love both of those amps to death.

 

[benjy]

Thanks. For rhythm I definitely prefer the 6505/5150 but for leads I like the JSX. What are your opinions on the 6505/5150 combo? Im undecided between that and a head and 2x12 with v30s.

 

[mva801]

The cab makes a HUGE difference. I'd much rather get a mesa 2x12 (if you can't afford a 4x12 - check craigslist. Sometimes you can get a screaming deal on them) than use the stock combo in a 6505.

From what I recall most of the sounds I liked out of the combo amps were when they were hooked up to external cabs....

My vote would be 5150/ 6505 into a mesa 2x12, if not too expensive a 4x12. That way you'll also have the cab available to pair with any other amps that people may bring in.

 

[benjy]

Thanks! i said 2x12 because there is a mesa on craigslist for $300!!! So i figure 5150-mesa-sm57-focusrite pro-logic for a solid Hundredthish tone? for dual tracking how much gain do you generally decrease?

 

[benjy]

Oh and would you recommend superior or slate for something like this. Im leaning towards superior since it is less precessed but let me know.

 

[JeffTD]

Mesa 2x12 is fine. I don't like the 5150 combos - they're voiced more like the 515II (aka worse IMO) and are heavier than satan's shit. For gain I generally like the 5150 around 3-4 with a TS in front.

I'd go for something like Evil Drums via Superior if you HAVE to program.

 

[benjy]

I absolutely have to program, which sucks because ive never recorded drums before and would like some experience. This may seem dumb compared to micing a cab but I could borrow a gsp 1101 and save the money for gear if it is close enough to the real deal. I have listened to some comparisons between it and a 6505 and they are very close.

 

[benjy]

Aslo regarding the Evil Drums. They sound awesome but is the add on itself seriously $200?!