i'm feeling uncomfortable while reading through this thread: it seems quite silly to me to start bashing each other for a poll/game that was just supposed to be fun. i never visit the opeth board, mainly because i don't really like the band and i've been told it's quite fast (the board, not the band
). if there's ppl there taking that thing (voting bands off) personal and worrying about cheaters and eventually making a fuss about it, i kinda second the opinion that they have to be retards. however, their lack of intelligence has nothing to do with me at all and i have no reason to complain about the issue.
there are a few points where i find o'blivion is wrong. they mostly concern
method, and that is to say i have nothing to prove here.
@o'blivion:
- although the object of communication is mutual understanding, and everybody's entitled to their choice of words to achieve just that (besides, i'm the king of high-sounding meaningless words that give off that false impression that i'm clever, here
), i really think it's not beyond your chances of comprehension that you
did sounded slightly preaching and aggressive.
it's bad enough if you want to tell ppl they're close-minded, but saying it out loud with the 'impress on me a very close-minded attitude' formula
doesn't sweeten the pill. in fact, i'd find it even more infuriating, and i'd probably be driven to the thought that you consider yourself on a higher level than me, both language- and grey matter-wise.
now, there is no way of knowing about your true intentions, but if you accept of taking an attitude that you know will lead me to think ill of you (when you could do otherwise), i find such intentions are not relevant anymore. what remains are fairly arrogant words.
- the part about all four sentences being exactly as close-minded i really don't buy, sorry. basically, you assume that all opinions have the same value, whereas
the whole point of phyre's statements was to tell you that he doesn't think so.
it is my personal
opinion - and therefore close-minded, i take it - that not everything is relative, and that one can place judgement over single aspects of reality, as long as he doesn't assume such judgements are unlimited or eternal or the fruit of rationality alone.
such a judgement, for instance, is: all nazis were dickheads, because they thought causing harm to the largest amount of ppl that was technically possible to hurt was a good thing.
i'm saying they were retarded because of their opinions, and they would probably express the same statements about me, a little while after having burned my sorry body to a crisp. the big difference here regards validity. there is quite a considerable amount of proof that if mankind avoids brutally murdering millions of its fellow human beings, it actually has a better chance to close the chapter of its life with a smile on its collective face and some dignity to spend in the collective afterlife (possibly to buy teddies. i love teddies
). so i think i can safely say that opinions going against this widespread assumption - unless it's proved wrong - and stating the need to happily destroy lives for the sake of doing something in your free time
are not as sound as the others.
on a much narrower scale, if there are ppl on the opeth board flaming bands and taking it all personal, in my book their opinions are
less sound than those who say that it's just a matter of tastes, because i think there's more worth in being able to cope with other ppl's likes than in trying to impose yours.
of course you can say this is not true. i will assume you're a retard and you will assume i'm close-minded.
- about that cheating thing, one should never make such claims without going a bit into the details. where are the rules written? and how did anyone cheat? and what proof do you have about it? and who did it, in the end?
@nicktheclayman: admit you've been rather aggressive, too. i normally write so many big words one could use them to build a skyscraper but you never complained. and in my case it's obvious that i'm trying to sound more intelligent than i really am!
rahvin. (voted off bloodbath, didn't vote last time, would surely have voted off nevermore because he can't stand the band)
