Slayer's Bloodline

Blue_Jay said:
I liked every album by Slayer... even God Hates Us All I liked. My least favorite was the album where Slayer uses 12 punk songs and turns them into metal punk. I forgot the name of the album. Even then I still liked it and thought of it as a just as interesting idea as creating something like Jazz Metal.
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The only ones I don't like are UA and GHUA.
 
What makes the new slayer any different than the previous two. Production and musically all three sound exactly the same.
 
I am here on sunday with GADD to see slayer:kickass: :kickass: :kickass: :kickass:
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Authentic Metalhead said:
That's exactly my problem with Slayer. If I listened to their entire discography from beginning to end, I would have a lot of trouble deciding when one album ended and a new album had started.
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:rolleyes:

You wouldn't be able to tell Show No Mercy from Christ Illusion? I mean, really?
 
Authentic Metalhead said:
That's exactly my problem with Slayer. If I listened to their entire discography from beginning to end, I would have a lot of trouble deciding when one album ended and a new album had started.
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I was not implying all slayer. I have no trouble telling appart 83 to 90 slayer musically and production wise. Sure it's the same all shit but they actually tried back then. Slayer now sound like an bunch of old bags that musicianship wise are not expanded past a teenager.

Christ I can play guitar better and am 19.
 
Carcassian said:
:rolleyes:

You wouldn't be able to tell Show No Mercy from Christ Illusion? I mean, really?
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When you put it that way, yes, but after listening to all their 90s work back to back, I'd be lost.

The Greys said:
I was not implying all slayer. I have no trouble telling appart 83 to 90 slayer musically and production wise. Sure it's the same all shit but they actually tried back then. Slayer now sound like an bunch of old bags that musicianship wise are not expanded past a teenager.
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I pretty much feel the same way. Show No Mercy, Haunting the Chapel, Hell Awaits, and Reign In Blood were decent albums, but everything after 1990 made me lose my liking for them. A good dose of 80s Slayer is good every once in awhile, though.
 
Thoth-Amon said:
The only ones I don't like are UA and GHUA.
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Dude, I didn't know you felt that way about GHUA. I think it's probably the weakest Slayer album but still good. Disciple, Payback, Bloodline..all killer tracks. There's only a couple of songs on that album that were just "okay" but still not bad. As for UA, I don't even count that as a Slayer album. :lol:
 
Authentic Metalhead said:
That's exactly my problem with Slayer. If I listened to their entire discography from beginning to end, I would have a lot of trouble deciding when one album ended and a new album had started.
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I know Carcassian already commented, but this is a pretty ignorant statement, as all of their work from the beginning to Seasons In The Abyss is pretty easily identifiable. I never understood this "it all sounds the same" criticism with regards to Slayer, because it's just not true.
 
Necuratul said:
I know Carcassian already commented, but this is a pretty ignorant statement, as all of their work from the beginning to Seasons In The Abyss is pretty easily identifiable. I never understood this "it all sounds the same" criticism with regards to Slayer, because it's just not true.
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I'm guessing that most people who say this don't like Slayer, and hardly listen to them, hence it all sounds, funnily enough, like Slayer. Furthermore, I have to agree with the minority that I liked God Hates Us All, but at the same time realise its not their best work. Just because its not Reign In Blood, doesn't mean it's shit.
And I also seem to be the only person that likes Undisputed Attitude. Yes, it's an album of hardcore punk songs. Therefore, it sounds like (wait for it) hardcore punk, as played by a thrash band that were heavily infuenced by the scene in the early 80's. I don't think it was ever supposed to be a stand alone Slayer album, more a piss about with the music they love, which came out sounding raw and aggressive as well as well produced, possibly the ideal in not only punk but metal as well. Oh well, each to their own.

As for Christ Illusion, I like it, probably the best stuff they've done in a while, mixing Seasons style thrash with 90's low-end, fat (dare I say it, Nu-metal) sound. One of the main criticisms i've heard is "I'm sick of these anti-religious lyrics, they're shit". Why, because back in the day Slayer lyrics were the epitome of poetic skill? "Raining Blood, From A Lacerated Sky, Creating My Structure, Now I Will Reign In Blood". Yeah, thats well deep, man.
People knock Christ Illusion because its not their mid to late 80's best, but if it just sounded exactly the same as the stuff from 15-20 years ago, they'd be a whole crowd of people criticising Slayer for not doing anything new. Lets be fair, they're better than Metallica are now and have trodden some new ground, unlike Anthrax, and hence have done better out of the last 15 years than any other major thrash band.

Well, thats my two cents anyway
 
As for Christ Illusion, I like it, probably the best stuff they've done in a while, mixing Seasons style thrash with 90's low-end, fat (dare I say it, Nu-metal) sound. One of the main criticisms i've heard is "I'm sick of these anti-religious lyrics, they're shit". Why, because back in the day Slayer lyrics were the epitome of poetic skill? "Raining Blood, From A Lacerated Sky, Creating My Structure, Now I Will Reign In Blood". Yeah, thats well deep, man.
People knock Christ Illusion because its not their mid to late 80's best, but if it just sounded exactly the same as the stuff from 15-20 years ago, they'd be a whole crowd of people criticising Slayer for not doing anything new. Lets be fair, they're better than Metallica are now and have trodden some new ground, unlike Anthrax, and hence have done better out of the last 15 years than any other major thrash band.

Well, thats my two cents anyway
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Slayer changed a lot during the 80s/90s. They stoped changing after Seasons Of Abyss for the most part though.

Some bands are better off not changing cause then they will change for the worse. Only a few bands had successful changes like ummm Death. That's one... Arch Enemy is another.. I can't think up of many other bands though.

But there is a bright side for changing. Ever notice how some bands release bland albums later on and didn't really change their formula yet? They ran out of good ideas with their foruma which pretty much left them creating a blander than normal album. Katatonia (Great Cold Distance was a huge step down since their best album was before it), Children Of Bodom, In Flames (my favorite band I know but even I know they are making steps down), Amorhpis before they changed their foruma by a vocalist change, Fear Factory, and of course Stratovarius which pretty much lost all of it's popularity after Elements Part 1. Don't see why though cause I loved that album.
 
The Greys said:
I was not implying all slayer. I have no trouble telling appart 83 to 90 slayer musically and production wise. Sure it's the same all shit but they actually tried back then. Slayer now sound like an bunch of old bags that musicianship wise are not expanded past a teenager.

Christ I can play guitar better and am 19.
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And you know what? You will never be in a metal band as influential or good as Slayer so all your guitar skills don't mean shit.
 
Necuratul said:
I know Carcassian already commented, but this is a pretty ignorant statement, as all of their work from the beginning to Seasons In The Abyss is pretty easily identifiable. I never understood this "it all sounds the same" criticism with regards to Slayer, because it's just not true.
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Thank you sir.
 
Billenzimmer said:
I'm guessing that most people who say this don't like Slayer, and hardly listen to them, hence it all sounds, funnily enough, like Slayer. Furthermore, I have to agree with the minority that I liked God Hates Us All, but at the same time realise its not their best work. Just because its not Reign In Blood, doesn't mean it's shit.
And I also seem to be the only person that likes Undisputed Attitude. Yes, it's an album of hardcore punk songs. Therefore, it sounds like (wait for it) hardcore punk, as played by a thrash band that were heavily infuenced by the scene in the early 80's. I don't think it was ever supposed to be a stand alone Slayer album, more a piss about with the music they love, which came out sounding raw and aggressive as well as well produced, possibly the ideal in not only punk but metal as well. Oh well, each to their own.

As for Christ Illusion, I like it, probably the best stuff they've done in a while, mixing Seasons style thrash with 90's low-end, fat (dare I say it, Nu-metal) sound. One of the main criticisms i've heard is "I'm sick of these anti-religious lyrics, they're shit". Why, because back in the day Slayer lyrics were the epitome of poetic skill? "Raining Blood, From A Lacerated Sky, Creating My Structure, Now I Will Reign In Blood". Yeah, thats well deep, man.
People knock Christ Illusion because its not their mid to late 80's best, but if it just sounded exactly the same as the stuff from 15-20 years ago, they'd be a whole crowd of people criticising Slayer for not doing anything new. Lets be fair, they're better than Metallica are now and have trodden some new ground, unlike Anthrax, and hence have done better out of the last 15 years than any other major thrash band.

Well, thats my two cents anyway
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:)
 
Billenzimmer said:
One of the main criticisms i've heard is "I'm sick of these anti-religious lyrics, they're shit". Why, because back in the day Slayer lyrics were the epitome of poetic skill? "Raining Blood, From A Lacerated Sky, Creating My Structure, Now I Will Reign In Blood". Yeah, thats well deep, man.
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I agree to an extent. I mean, these days, anit-Religion songs sound so cheasy. I'm probably gonna get destroyed for saying this, but I like the songs Slayer wrote about society today. Aside from some cheasy lines ("God Hates Us All, ect...) I like the lyrics to "Disciple". I mean, with the state of the world today, I believe they speak some truth, like "pessimist, terrorist targeting the next mark, global chaos feeding on hysteria" and "strive for peace with acts of war, the beauty of death we all adore".
 
well slayer was awesome last night at reading paddy was in the zone :kickass: :kickass: :kickass: :kickass: :Smokin: :Smokin: :Smokin: GADD says that the artic monkeys tune I BET THAT YOU LOOK GOOD ON THE DANCE FLOOR will remind her of paddy for ever IT is a great festival i had a awesome time:kickass:
 
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