this thread will go on forever, so i need to point out that we aren't necessarily in disagreeance, because like i said, whether or not this is a sad state of affairs doesn't matter, it's just the REALITY of things. this reality may suck hard, but I don't blame an ENGINEER for cashing in on it. guitarists, yes, and i'm sure joey rolls his eyes at kids rollin up to the studio trying to bust out riffs that they can't quite play to his tightness specifications and requirements (which if you listen to his records, are relentless).
so bottom line, guitarists that approach the studio with the riffs they can't actually play should be stricken with shame.
HOWEVER, the guilt and shame should not fall on the engineer for trying to make the best of what he's been forced to work with, especially in a professional situation, and when you're as high up as joey is. like i said, listen to some of his stuff, (see "attack attack", "the devil wears prada") and you'll be most likely nauseated, but you'll atleast see what i mean.
you're right, you know, about the eye rolling part.
in all honesty i see no wrong in what i do. there's several other hundred engineers and producers out there doing the exact same thing.
have you ever seen blink 182 perform live on jimmy kennel? some of the bands i work with are better than that, and blink 182 are huge.
good recordings can lead to great success, no matter how bad you suck live.
but great success can crumble if you suck live, too.
in retrospect i regret that i was thrown into the scene in which i work, because i'd much rather be doing programmed / factory / machine sounding pop songs like boys like girls, and getting the 1 percent traditionally awarded.
then i could get going on my life's todo list of things to experience... like a yacht, and some ocean, and some sun.
dont get me wrong tho, some of these bands are really passionate at what they do, and so am i. but sometimes it just doesnt fucking matter, and i've got a heat bill durin the winter that's pretty steep. so i could care less at times.