So huh... we can download over 1000 songs in a Ipod Nano?

My 40gig has 6000 songs and It's full almost full, and in reality only has 37.4 gigs or somthing. Maybe some Wav's instead of MP3's, and a few live mixes.

What file-type do you mostly use?
 
1. When it says xGB. Thats the max. Theres always dead sectors and unusable portions plus generic data to make it work that fill that space.
2. When they say 1000 songs... they mean at REALLY SHITTY QUALITY. 128kbps or less for mp3. 64kbps for wma. My 20GB zen has 22xx songs on it and is almost full, a lot of that is ripped from CD at 320kbps, I like my sound quality.
3. They round up. :p
 
Yeah, my 40GB has about 7,000 songs, and only 3 free GB (out of a possible 37GB, because the OS takes up 3 or so GB). As Andrew said, they're considering a much lower average kbs/file size than most of us would use.
 
PS: I hate MACs, but really there is no MP3 player better then the iPod. Maybe technicle specs + price etc = on papper they are better, and im sure many would dissagree, but seriously iPods are almost perfect in every way, the new ones especially.
 
I prefer my zen, is has longer battery life and bettery sound quality (if you have really nice headphones to go with).

Most people don't need the battery life, I do. Theres a lot of times where I'll end up listening to it for 2 days without having a chance to recharge it.
 
Conspicuously Absent said:
I prefer my zen, is has longer battery life and bettery sound quality (if you have really nice headphones to go with).

Most people don't need the battery life, I do. Theres a lot of times where I'll end up listening to it for 2 days without having a chance to recharge it.

New iPods battery life is fuckin bananas.
 
They have the same frequency response, but the zen outputs less noise in the output. Only really noticable when you crank the fuckers into a nice pair of Headphones.

anyway, i'm sick of this debate. I prefer my zen to my buddies ipod. BY FAR. I hate the interface of hte ipod as well.
 
Conspicuously Absent said:
anyway, i'm sick of this debate. I prefer my zen to my buddies ipod. BY FAR. I hate the interface of hte ipod as well.

Haha, yea, you where who I had in mind when i said "not everyone will agree" or watever I said. Which is all well and good!
 
KILL TULLY said:
Haha, yea, you where who I had in mind when i said "not everyone will agree" or watever I said. Which is all well and good!


In the end. Zen == Ipod depending upon your personal preferences.

now lets all crack open a beer and hook our mp3 players up to a stereo and blast some metal k?
 
do i need to get with the times? i carry around 5-10 cds in full jewel cases to school with me every day, along with a shitty discman that my girlfriend got me to replace the one that got stolen a while ago.
 
well my ipod has 2gb of space, and I only have 350 meg left. I have some songs that are over 10 minutes but I don't think I have any Wav's in it. Most are mp3s of 128 kpbs quality or over.
 
ok. 2GB nano. Figure it's actually 1.75GB. Take all the songs on it and put them in one folder on your computer. Thats how much space they take up on your nano.
 
Well, the problem here is a difference in terminology. Windows reports binary gigabytes (1024 * 1024 * 1024 bytes). Hard drives advertise capacity in decimal gigabytes (1000 * 1000 * 1000 bytes). So, a 40GB drive is really only 37 binary GB (or so). The "OS" on an ipod couldn't possibly take up more than a couple megabytes, at most.

As for sound quality, I read a study where they played 128kbit mp3, 256kbit mp3, and CD on high-end audiophile equipment to a bunch of audiophiles who wouldn't even touch any compressed audio. More than half of them labeled the 128kbit mp3 as CD, but most of them correctly identified the 256kbit mp3s. I once did a test myself and I couldn't tell the difference between a 256kbit and 128kbit on my own speakers (having encoded them both with the same software). So, I don't bother wasting my drive space any more. I actually moved to 64kbit mp3pro because I couldn't hear a difference between that and the 128kbit mp3s.
 
Conspicuously Absent said:
1. When it says xGB. Thats the max. Theres always dead sectors and unusable portions plus generic data to make it work that fill that space.
beh. hard drives today don't come with dead sectors. you never get 40 Gb out of a 40 Gb disk BECAUSE:

1) manufacturers say one gig is 1,000,000 Kb, reality says it is 1,048,576 Kb

2) FILESYSTEM OVERHEAD

that's it