stefan86's offtopic random retard thread - post away!

most people will say similar things to you guys. Its about family and being thankful. But in reality its not. Very few people actually see passed the greed of what they presents they want or how big they can make themselves seem by giving expensive gifts or having the best decorations.
 
lol. Well that can be part of the crap I guess. But you sound a little bitter about something on that point. I just dislike the commercially influenced nature of the holiday. I do agree I don't like people going crazy on gifts and I myself really don't care for giving or receiving, it all feels so unnecessary. However I don't concern myself with decorations and competitive buying. I find the whole thing to be absurd at its core, but I feel that way about a few annual celebrations(Valentines day falls in there).

I just don't understand the idea that on designated days of the year you are expected to act in a certain way and meet some kind of criteria laid out by commercials. To me any gesture made without the obligation is far more powerful. I'm just rambling though, I still like the food:)
 
i'm not really bitter, but more disillusioned with humanity. and again i agree with you, its not just christmas that is a problem for me, its all commercial holidays, for the same basic reasoning. christmas is just the worst example in my opinion.
 
most people will say similar things to you guys. Its about family and being thankful. But in reality its not. Very few people actually see passed the greed of what they presents they want or how big they can make themselves seem by giving expensive gifts or having the best decorations.

I'm sorry, but no. That is an exaggeration.

If you want to be upset about the commercial front, fine. Nevermind that its not only the big bad corporations that benefit, it helps small 'mom and pa' shops stay afloat, because I can still understand the criticism on that front.


However when it comes to peoples true intentions with giving and receiving...really? Sure, there are some people that likely only care about receiving, and some that like to flaunt their financial positions but to assume that to be all encompassing is short sighted.
 
the mens of my family are all alcoholics misogynists.

Instead of just going: "hello, when we will meet your gf?" they say "hello, when we will meet your gf, so i can rate her rack?"
 
I like because i can drink beer with my cousins I never see. I don't like going to the city center these days, so many people.
 
I'm sorry, but no. That is an exaggeration.

If you want to be upset about the commercial front, fine. Nevermind that its not only the big bad corporations that benefit, it helps small 'mom and pa' shops stay afloat, because I can still understand the criticism on that front.


However when it comes to peoples true intentions with giving and receiving...really? Sure, there are some people that likely only care about receiving, and some that like to flaunt their financial positions but to assume that to be all encompassing is short sighted.

this is exactly what i wanted to say, but i just couldnt find the wording. sounds bitter to me, and i cant say anyone in my family buys gifts or does things together as some sort of giant corporate scheme to see who can prove theyre the best person. sure theres people around my city who see who can have the biggest light show, but my family puts up one string of lights, and our tree is decorated with ornaments weve collected. there are ones celebrating the birth of my sister and i, as well as our first christmas. and every year my dad gets my mom a new ornament to celebrate another year of marriage. (also things from our deceased relatives, ones that reminded us of our pets past and present, things representing who we are as people etc)

to say that all christmas is surrounded by greed is more insulting than anything imo.



also, just to respond to vikk, i would agree that would be insulting :(, i used to date a girl whos dad was exactly like that, and the worst part is how they try and get you to go along with it. "give niki the extra food, hes a man and you'll just get fat. hes a good guy but hes not gonna want some fat gf"
 
most people will say similar things to you guys. Its about family and being thankful. But in reality its not. Very few people actually see passed the greed of what they presents they want or how big they can make themselves seem by giving expensive gifts or having the best decorations.

Yeah I'd have to agree with Jason. It's not even short-sighted; it's a gross generalization, and one which cannot possibly be quantified to any workable degree.

I can understand your disenchantment with the holiday season, it can certainly be challenging, but this just sounds like bitterness to me.