heh, I see lots of things there I didn't put into the discussion... don't really care about media and muslims, did give the coran a few reads long time ago plus a few readings to some articles about it... just enough to realize is the same stuff that the bible says, it is primitive, muslims might have progressed in the medieval ages yet you still live under a doctrine that doesn't really allows you to take fully advantage of science, so you got stuck in the same stuff hundred years ago, also, you are still opressive with the people that wanna move away from the muslim world, it's almost like oriental dogmas, family gets ashamed and stuff... religions keep being a primitive way to opium the masses... primitive yet effective.