stefan86's offtopic random retard thread - post away!

I see what you mean but I think you didn't get the fact that I don't think this was made for muslims, or at least not extremist muslims trying to destroy the infidels one by one and such fairy tales, I look at this things as inside jobs.

The article you quoted is the "clash" I was talking about before :)
 
then, if vikk is right, muslims have the right to bomb sweden to dust since sweden sent soldiers to iraq and afganistan to stablish nothing but a facist government over those countries :) sweden is being just another NWO's bitch right now :( and you can see that because of the internet and Assange thing.
 
then, if vikk is right, muslims have the right to bomb sweden to dust since sweden sent soldiers to iraq and afganistan to stablish nothing but a facist government over those countries :) sweden is being just another NWO's bitch right now :( and you can see that because of the internet and Assange thing.
my love, I think what vikk says, is just the opposite. He does not speak of "each do what they want". Just not to mess with the other.
"muslims have the right to bomb sweden". No, because in that case, musilms are trying to change another culture with their believes".
 
I see what you mean but I think you didn't get the fact that I don't think this was made for muslims, or at least not extremist muslims trying to destroy the infidels one by one and such fairy tales, I look at this things as inside jobs.

The article you quoted is the "clash" I was talking about before :)

i got that, but i had just waken up, mind not working properly :D

the deal with Assange, is clear that are other countries (mainly US i assume) are making pressure on Sweden to arrest him, and Sweden granted because it's not happy with what Assange is doing also.

That leads me to question the Sweden government attitudes. But from forging a arrest warrant to a fake terrorist attempt in middle Stockholm, is a pretty big step imo.
 
why shouldn't Sweden close down and target the Muslim? they have every right to, and any country should say it out loud, because that is how the Muslim are "wining" they are moving to European countries and "demanding" certain rights as citizens and some shit like this.

I joke with Hex a lot, but i don't really have nothing against him. i just have issues with people from any culture, trying to change another culture with their believes, in whatever religion, in whatever place.

As far the internet/spy thing.... i sense a trend in Sweden against piracy... since their long struggle with Pirate Bay. I think now with Assange they are trying to re-enforce their point of "we don't like internet kthnks".

Muslims have to understand that when they are outside their countries, they should be happy for having the rights they don't have in their homelands. Also, they have to understand they are considered as "guests" most of the time (unless they have the nationality of the country they are in, then I don't see why they don't have any right to ask for certain laws and all, no matter what that law is about), but when you are at mine, you have to conform to my laws like everyone else, or I can help you leave this place.
And please, let's not talk about "changing one's culture". Culture is something dynamic, that changes with time and with events, if it becomes stagnant, it will encounter many many problems, especially with such "globalization age". The Arab/Muslim world has been a good example of this since the 13th century I guess.
If there was people that got harmed by unnatural change in culture (I guess this is what you mean) is US (I do not mean the USA haha). Since the colonization era our culture didn't change or progress, it was damaged, and now it will take it ages to progress.

Most of the Muslims/Arabs you see making troubles in Europe, are the "garbage" of our society, those who quit education, lost their future here, and then decided to move (mostly illegally) there to Europe, or it's their kids. People have to understand this. They made a lots of problems here in their homelands before they go there. I know people in Europe don't care about this, but they have to understand it, it's a big social problem, it shouldn't be faced with "fuck Muslims and Arabs, stop immigration" and all.. it should be well understand to be well fixed.
As for immigration, if your countries didn't need people to work certain jobs or sth, they wouldn't open the gates to immigrants, don't look at them only as social bacterias, the vast majority of them are doing jobs that none of you would do, and for this very reason your country welcomed them.
I really don't see much difference between "your world and ours", we are both harmed by foreigns in different levels, you by the immigrants, and us by the opportunists foreign investors.
 
my love, I think what vikk says, is just the opposite. He does not speak of "each do what they want". Just not to mess with the other.
"muslims have the right to bomb sweden". No, because in that case, musilms are trying to change another culture with their believes".

yeah, but sweden along USA and England and lots of other countries did that with iraq and afganistan already when they went there to replace the local culture for their own killing thousands and thousands of people.
 
That leads me to question the Sweden government attitudes. But from forging a arrest warrant to a fake terrorist attempt in middle Stockholm, is a pretty big step imo.

oh, no no, the Assange deal is because of USA's interest on getting him... the terrorist attack is Sweden's interest, hence why I said sweden's on a hot spot right now, lots of thing going on here.
 
yeah, but sweden along USA and England and lots of other countries did that with iraq and afganistan already when they went there to replace the local culture for their own killing thousands and thousands of people.
si, se eso, digo que ninguno deberia meterse con el otro. Lo unico que se necesita para que haya paz es tener respeto.
 
si, se eso, digo que ninguno deberia meterse con el otro. Lo unico que se necesita para que haya paz es tener respeto.

sipo, lo malo es que todos estos paises son una manga de prepotentes que creen se pueden tomar el mundo entero y nadie les va a decir nada T.T todo por el vil dinero, naa que ver :(
 
sipo, lo malo es que todos estos paises son una manga de prepotentes que creen se pueden tomar el mundo entero y nadie les va a decir nada T.T todo por el vil dinero, naa que ver :(
Dinero, pero hay algunos que apostaria renunciarian a todo su oro con tal de tener poder, dominar, mandar, que se haga lo que quieren.
En ese caso no es el vil dinero, es la vil ambicion.

ps:loviu
 
Muslims have to understand that when they are outside their countries, they should be happy for having the rights they don't have in their homelands. Also, they have to understand they are considered as "guests" most of the time (unless they have the nationality of the country they are in, then I don't see why they don't have any right to ask for certain laws and all, no matter what that law is about), but when you are at mine, you have to conform to my laws like everyone else, or I can help you leave this place.

wen a immigrant gets the nationality, yes, they are subjected to the same privileges and obligations, laws, duties to the rest of the population. But still i believe that "Wen in Rome" is applied. Imo is one thing to ask for a fair treatment, to fight for their rights to have the same healthy care as every other Swede if he have the nationality. But demand a holiday based on culture/faith is another thing....

government MUST separate from religion.

And please, let's not talk about "changing one's culture". Culture is something dynamic, that changes with time and with events, if it becomes stagnant, it will encounter many many problems, especially with such "globalization age". The Arab/Muslim world has been a good example of this since the 13th century I guess.
If there was people that got harmed by unnatural change in culture (I guess this is what you mean) is US (I do not mean the USA haha). Since the colonization era our culture didn't change or progress, it was damaged, and now it will take it ages to progress.

i totally agree, i'm not a Nazi to think that all races should be totally pure, but in case of Sweden this is taking a totally new level. It has gone out of hand. There are projections that says that in 30 years, 60% of the population will be immigrants

Most of the Muslims/Arabs you see making troubles in Europe, are the "garbage" of our society, those who quit education, lost their future here, and then decided to move (mostly illegally) there to Europe, or it's their kids. People have to understand this. They made a lots of problems here in their homelands before they go there. I know people in Europe don't care about this, but they have to understand it, it's a big social problem, it shouldn't be faced with "fuck Muslims and Arabs, stop immigration" and all.. it should be well understand to be well fixed.

i agree :) Jen once told me about some Lebanese immigrants in Australia that gang raped a couple of woman there sometime ago, but that she also meet some good Lebanese people. Not all immigrants are evil.

As for immigration, if your countries didn't need people to work certain jobs or sth, they wouldn't open the gates to immigrants, don't look at them only as social bacterias, the vast majority of them are doing jobs that none of you would do, and for this very reason your country welcomed them.
I really don't see much difference between "your world and ours", we are both harmed by foreigns in different levels, you by the immigrants, and us by the opportunists foreign investors.

again, i'm not against immigration, but i do think it should be more controlled