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[malmsteve]

hey guys,

Maybe someone here can help me. I cant seem to put my finger on this guys tone, it has a synthy feel to it, but really clean sounding. He is amazingly fast in my opinion, almost sounds sped up to me or has a midi sequenced quality to it.

The guitar players names is lars eric mattsson and his early stuff blows, really slopping playing and bad phrasing, then all of a sudden a decade later he is playing like a god, I dont get it.

Anyway, listen to the lead work anybody put a vibe on the tone, he states he uses just a peavey head and mesa cab micd up, I dont think so.

 

[ForHerDeadEyes]

"then all of a sudden a decade later"

It could be programmed, or recorded at a slower speed and then edited in place.

 

[Vicioushead]

My god, that vibrato is disgusting.

 

[LowellWolfe]

I'd say a decade is a pretty sufficient amount of time to get better, haha.

 

[Nuno Filipe]

^ was exactly my thoughts!lol

 

[malmsteve]

Not if you heard this guys early stuff, lol, such a dramatic difference. Anyway I was being sarcastic, the real point to the thread was to see if anybody could pinpoint that sound. I think he is using a blend of direct guitar and a midi synth sound.

 

[nezvers]

sound like Shreddage - Kontakt instrument, best of the kind. I don't own it but I had option to test it.
Vibrato and that MIDI-ish sound is a giveaway that it's not real playing.
MAYBE... maybe he played it slowly+ edited to grid + tuned + speed up. But vibrato tells me it's sampled instrument.

 

[JoeMeek12397]

You can get that really synthetic tone and weird vibrato from recording at half speed. Ctrl+Shift+Spacebar in Pro Tools, then pitch it down an octave.

 

[malmsteve]

Thanks for some insight fellas, i was thinking it was something like that, i was going to check into that roland guitar synth, he may trigger using that possibly. But i do think he speeds it up.

 

[FrankTheSmith]

Shreddage?

 

[closures]

I think 10 years is long enough for someone even mildly dedicated who has never picked up a guitar before, to become a good player.

 

[nezvers]

FrankTheSmith, that wasn't really the best example what shreddage can do.



There is another kontakt instrument

 

[bryan_kilco]

On the subject of synth sounding guitars or edited so hard that it sounds fake/midi......

I hear a lot of people play some riffs at half tempo and speed it up to get the parts perfect. How exactly is this even done? Just literally change the tempo map? I'm in Reaper and I tried messing with it before, slowing playrate down and recording then setting playrate back to 1.0 but it changes pitch. Seems like if you halved your tempo, it'd screw up the rest of the tempo map.

 

[Habsburgs]

just play it a little bit slower and slip edit the notes. you dont even need a metronome.

 

[FrankTheSmith]

FrankTheSmith, that wasn't really the best example what shreddage can do.

I know ha. That was just a video of a song I covered with all vst instruments.

 

[indecizo]

synthetic guitar sound: record at half speed. profit

 

[Vicioushead]

I think 10 years is long enough for someone even mildly dedicated who has never picked up a guitar before, to become a good player.

If that was the case, his vibrato wouldn't sound like putrid shit from a rotten aardvarks anus.

There's no question, it's a synth instrument/recorded at half speed.

 

[zf]

I'm in Reaper and I tried messing with it before, slowing playrate down and recording then setting playrate back to 1.0 but it changes pitch.

In Reaper, right-click on the playrate control and make sure you have "Preserve pitch in audio items when changing master playrate" checked.

 

[closures]

If that was the case, his vibrato wouldn't sound like putrid shit from a rotten aardvarks anus.

There's no question, it's a synth instrument/recorded at half speed.

I think you are absolutely right in this case.

I just find the thought process of wondering how someone could progress so significantly over that length of time a bit ridiculous.

 

[bryan_kilco]

In Reaper, right-click on the playrate control and make sure you have "Preserve pitch in audio items when changing master playrate" checked.

Cool, good to know. I'll probably never use it myself for anything serious though.