Tad Morose fans musician discussion....

dargormudshark said:
I like him, but I like Stephan Lill better that tone kicks my ass! Nothing tops it when Lill hits that bend at the beginning of the solo for "Healing Tree".

My favorite soloist or guitar player?

Guitarist:Ritchie Blackmore-Even though he is sloppy at times and not a great rythem player he is very persistent in his writing. He has been writing great songs since 1968! Most of his solos are improv but when he writes one out, it usually is really good. Ex. Highway Star, Burn, STONE COLD!!!(my favorite solo)
I guess if you average it out it kind of makes him both, I would like to see him write more solos out though.

Soloists:Michael Romeo, Steve Morse, Shawn Lane, and Al DiMeola are all probably my favorite. Stephan Forte has some great moments too, but overall he doesn't make my top 5. I like my old guitar teacher's band alot, "Magistral". They have 2 guitar players now and my old guitar teacher and the new guitarist have great solos. Lately I have been listening too Mats Haugen(Circus Maximus) and his solo for Glory of the Empire rules.

That's all I can think of right now.


Hey !! I am supposed to be the VP fanatic here. :loco: Like you, I love Stephan's tone and I also love his songwriting and his soloing is strong, but I am big on phrasing in both a blues and classical style. A player that plays jazz fusion loses me instantly and a player that relies on boring pentatonic riffs bores me as well as does a purely technical player that plays all of his/her stuff so fast, he/she can't put any technique and emotion into individual notes at least at some point into the solo.
I have a challenge for you.... Dargor. You have had to tolerate my praising of Wolf Hoffmann since you have been here, but though I think as a band "Balls to the Wall" is Accept's masterpiece, Wolf hadn't come into his own when they recorded that release. The fact I think Hoffmann is God on guitar doesn't mean you will, but if you want to know what I am trying to achieve as a guitarist, you can listen to him and you will get a general idea. I don't use his riffs, but he is by and large my biggest influence. Look up the songs It's Hard to Find A Way, Aiming High, Up to the Limit, Midnight Mover and Metal Heart.
If you do that, and don't like him, I probably will still talk about Wolf when the thread dictates, but I won't pester you about him, I promise. Ha ha ha. If you do like his stuff then you will be able to join me in the thread so you have nothing to lose. :D If nothing else you will definitely understand what I mean by how I like phrasing notes. Wolf can play a single note a thousand different ways, but he doesn't forego the strong left-hand technique and can run circles around most guitarists technically as well.


Bryant
 
dargormudshark said:
I will download some tomorrow, now it's my turn. LISTEN TO SOME PAIN OF SALVATION. Just listen to the right stuff a few times, Beyond the Pale, Reconciliation, Inside.

I own "Remedy Lane" as it was highly recommended to me, but I just simply don't "get" them. I have given them plenty of spins, but it never clicked. I am open to other suggestions though.


Bryant
 
I downloaded some Accept stuff, Wolf's phrasing is pretty good. The main reason I don't like them is the backing vocals. Well, if you own Remedy Lane and don't like it then I don't think you will like them at all because that's my favorite from them. What do you think of King Crimson?
 
dargormudshark said:
I downloaded some Accept stuff, Wolf's phrasing is pretty good. The main reason I don't like them is the backing vocals. Well, if you own Remedy Lane and don't like it then I don't think you will like them at all because that's my favorite from them. What do you think of King Crimson?

I love those "gang vocals." It is one of their signatures, but to each his own. It is "different" and I can understand why some don't like it. As far as Wolf's style, as you said, it is his phrasing I like so much. Even though he certainly has fine technical skills, he does so much tweking the individual notes. I wish I could play like that.

I am not real familiar with King Crimson, though I know the name. What would you recommend ?


Bryant
 
I realize that I am not a musician, but I have to mention the man who is quite possibly my favorite metal guitarist, and get your unadulterated opinion of him:

Jeff Loomis of Nevermore :worship:

I personally think this guy is amazing, and somehow gets better with every album. His leads are crunchy, technical masterpieces. And it is my humble opinion that he is second to none in the thrash metal scene.

Again I reiterate that I am no musician and I may not know most of the lingo, but Jeff Loomis is damn good. I do know that. :D

Thanks,

~Hoyt.
 
Bryant said:
I love those "gang vocals." It is one of their signatures, but to each his own. It is "different" and I can understand why some don't like it. As far as Wolf's style, as you said, it is his phrasing I like so much. Even though he certainly has fine technical skills, he does so much tweking the individual notes. I wish I could play like that.

I am not real familiar with King Crimson, though I know the name. What would you recommend ?


Bryant

It is hard to recommend something from Crimson since their are so many era's. Without a doubt they are the first prog band, but there sound varies.

Here is a list of good songs to check out: Starless, Fallen Angel, The Nightwatch, Level Five, Eyes Wide Open, anything from Larke's Tongues in Aspic, Epitaph, 21st Century Schizoid Man, In The Court of the Crimson King.

Like I said they are all over the map but I think every prog fan should have heard some.
 
Rider of Theli said:
I realize that I am not a musician, but I have to mention the man who is quite possibly my favorite metal guitarist, and get your unadulterated opinion of him:

Jeff Loomis of Nevermore :worship:

I personally think this guy is amazing, and somehow gets better with every album. His leads are crunchy, technical masterpieces. And it is my humble opinion that he is second to none in the thrash metal scene.

Again I reiterate that I am no musician and I may not know most of the lingo, but Jeff Loomis is damn good. I do know that. :D

Thanks,

~Hoyt.

One of my bitter enemies looks like Jeff Loomis :)
 
Rider of Theli said:
I realize that I am not a musician, but I have to mention the man who is quite possibly my favorite metal guitarist, and get your unadulterated opinion of him:

Jeff Loomis of Nevermore :worship:

I personally think this guy is amazing, and somehow gets better with every album. His leads are crunchy, technical masterpieces. And it is my humble opinion that he is second to none in the thrash metal scene.

Again I reiterate that I am no musician and I may not know most of the lingo, but Jeff Loomis is damn good. I do know that. :D

Thanks,

~Hoyt.

I agree. He has a great style and one of my best net friends is a Nevermore nut. Killer guitarist. I also vote for Dio era Viv campbell. He was one hell of a player.


Bryant
 
dargormudshark said:
Here is another thing that needs to be said. Peter Moren is an awesome drummer, listen to the intro for "The Trader of Souls"

No doubt about it. Peter reminds me quite a bit of Metal Church's drummer, Kirk Arrington. Both Pete and Kirk have a respective technical arsenal at their disposal and use it when the time is right, but both play well within the context of the song while still putting their own unique personality into their work. Both also are very tasteful with their ride work. I love the odd-timing ride work and both do that well.

Bryant
 
Listened to any more Metal Church Darg ? Had the production been better on "BiD" I would say that release was equal to anything Metallica released. Great drumming by Kirk Arrington as well.


Bryant