Technical Death Metal

[sceloporus]

I love the bass. It's just kinda hard to play you know what I mean? Especially when you're used to the guitar. Big ass frets, and you gotta press really hard.

I need some umm, effects for the bass though, because it sounds too plain, and the distortion on my amp makes it sound like a guitar. Would you recommend anything?

Do you play bass yourself?

Yes I'm a bassist, effect wise I have a distortion pedal and rarely use it (I prefer the clean sound).Wah bass pedals sound really good and are fun to play with, or you could look into a cheap multi effects and get a bunch of effects to mess around with.Other ways (little more difficult though) is Slaping and poping, its a funky sound and you might not be into it but it's really fun and adds a TON of life to your playing.

 

[DoctorX3]

...said the Rex Brown fan.

You know, I'll play devil's advocate for Brown. His basslines in Pantera were mindless mimicry of the guitar parts, but he's become much better since that band's heyday. Listen to his playing on the more recent Down albums, and you'll hear he's become quite accomplished.

And bass is one of those instruments where anyone can play it, but true talent is required to master it. The difference between someone who plays bass and a true bassist is the ability to write independent lines that GROOVE. That's the difference between Billy Gould and Tom Araya.

 

[Scourge of God]

And here I thought the difference was that Tom Araya was an indispensable cog in what is probably the single most important and influential metal band ever, while Billy Gould was a no-name schlub in an also-ran wigger rock band.

 

[nissan]

If you could only get one tech death album, what would it be?
I'm not sure myself, I'm still a big noob at tech death.

Check out Psycroptic - The Scepter Of The Ancients

 

[nissan]

Yes I'm a bassist, effect wise I have a distortion pedal and rarely use it (I prefer the clean sound).Wah bass pedals sound really good and are fun to play with, or you could look into a cheap multi effects and get a bunch of effects to mess around with.Other ways (little more difficult though) is Slaping and poping, its a funky sound and you might not be into it but it's really fun and adds a TON of life to your playing.

Ah, thanks for the info. I don't like distortion, but a lot of bands have this effect that makes their bass sound really menacing yet it's still soft and good on the years. The guitar distortion makes it sound annoying and too harsh.

I guess I need to get a bass pedal or something.

Do you play in a metal band with the clean bass?

 

[DoctorX3]

And here I thought the difference was that Tom Araya was an indispensable cog in what is probably the single most important and influential metal band ever, while Billy Gould was a no-name schlub in an also-ran wigger rock band.

If by "indispensable" you mean "never coming up with an worthwhile musical contribution in his life," then yes.

Faith No More are "wiggers?" Damn. Now I'll have to replace their CDs with Johnny Rebel albums.

 

[Scourge of God]

If by "indispensable" you mean "never coming up with an worthwhile musical contribution in his life," then yes. '

Other than being probably the most instantly recognizable voice in extreme metal, not to mention one of the primary lyricists for one of the more articulate bands around? Sure, he's not noodling around like an asshole, but let's face it, when a bassist does more than bang out root notes, he's usually just tripping on his dick.

Faith No More are "wiggers?" Damn. Now I'll have to replace their CDs with Johnny Rebel albums.

It would be a wise decision, yes.

 

[Satanstoenail]

What are you implying here?

Just that I remember you saying he was one of your favorite bass players. He plays with a pick and follows the guitar lines. It's no wonder that you think bass is easier to play than guitar.

Well, I went from electric guitar to electric bass and the rudimentary techniques were much easier to learn.

I'll agree that getting up to DiGiorgio's level of playing is very challenging, but the fundamentals are easier.

The fundamentals of both instruments are about the same IMO. Power chord guitar parts vs 16th note root note basslines. Meh.

You know, I'll play devil's advocate for Brown. His basslines in Pantera were mindless mimicry of the guitar parts, but he's become much better since that band's heyday. Listen to his playing on the more recent Down albums, and you'll hear he's become quite accomplished.

Cool, I'll have to give them a listen. I don't actually think he's shit, I was just using him as an example for the sake of this argument.

And bass is one of those instruments where anyone can play it, but true talent is required to master it. The difference between someone who plays bass and a true bassist is the ability to write independent lines that GROOVE. That's the difference between Billy Gould and Tom Araya.

Exactly. Although instead of Billy Gould I'd use Tony Choy as an example.

 

[The Ozzman]

Just that I remember you saying he was one of your favorite bass players. He plays with a pick and follows the guitar lines. It's no wonder that you think bass is easier to play than guitar.

Pantera isn't the only shit I play, you know.

 

[Wahnsinn]

Domination Through Impurity
Decapitated
Origin

 

[DoctorX3]

Other than being probably the most instantly recognizable voice in extreme metal, not to mention one of the primary lyricists for one of the more articulate bands around? Sure, he's not noodling around like an asshole, but let's face it, when a bassist does more than bang out root notes, he's usually just tripping on his dick.

*le sigh* Tom Araya does have a distinctive voice, but the actual vocal "melodies" (and I use that term loosely) are quite similar to the style displayed by Venom before him. He also lost his ability to do that Cinco de Mayo scream after South of Heven, but I can't imagine anyone wanting to imitate it.

Articulate? That's not much of an achievement for a lyricist. Neil Peart is articulate. All you need to fit that adjective is a thesaurus.

It would be a wise decision, yes.

Wait, let me get this straight.... so it's perfectly alright for Tom Araya (a Mexican) to play a style of music that's normally associated with white people, but you consider Faith No More's art tainted, because they (all white, after the departure of Mosley) use elements from black music (which all rock music does, whether you'd like to admit it or not).

We are truly living in a post-ironic world.

 

[sceloporus]

Ah, thanks for the info. I don't like distortion, but a lot of bands have this effect that makes their bass sound really menacing yet it's still soft and good on the years. The guitar distortion makes it sound annoying and too harsh.

I guess I need to get a bass pedal or something.

Do you play in a metal band with the clean bass?

When it come to bass, metal's not really my thing, I like to be able to feel the music I'm playing and metal doesn't really cut it for me.Although I would still love to play bass in a metal band just for the fun of it.
There are of course many/ if not most metal bands that play without distortion.
And I know what you mean about the menacing sound, I'm not quite sure either. Although I'm not sure weather or not it's an effect or a technique.
Do you use finger style or a pick? Pick seems to bring the sound closer to the sound you were referring to.

 

[nissan]

Trying both. It's interesting how much dynamics you can get volume-wise just by the way you pick...

 

[cookiecutter]

Araya is Chilean fyi

 

[Skepticism]

when a bassist does more than bang out root notes, he's usually just tripping on his dick.

What the fuck are you saying.

 

[DoctorX3]

Araya is Chilean fyi

D'oh, you're right!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Araya

He's still Latino though, and Dave Lombardo is Caribbean (Cuban).

 

[Old Murder Soul]

I love the bass. It's just kinda hard to play you know what I mean? Especially when you're used to the guitar. Big ass frets, and you gotta press really hard.

I need some umm, effects for the bass though, because it sounds too plain, and the distortion on my amp makes it sound like a guitar. Would you recommend anything?

Do you play bass yourself?

I play bass. I like when the bass, sound bassy. Not jazzy. I like when it's dark and provides lowend. I also hate when people do like bass leads. Sounds like shit imo.

Bass is easier to play than six string electric guitar.

Depends. Guitar is used to play leads, so in that sense bass is easier. But physically bass is harder because of the big strings and the longer scale. Also, you say 6 string, but in reality, it doesn't matter how many strings are on either, because they still have the same responsibilities.

 

[zoidberg]

this thread is off topic! Your All BANNED!!!!!!!!!!

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Yeah what the fuck is with this forum's inability to stay on topic. Start talking about tech death or I am deleting posts.

 

[zoidberg]

Yeah what the fuck is with this forum's inability to stay on topic. Start talking about tech death or I am deleting posts.

wouldnt i make a good mod?


i need to check out psycroptic, whats thier best album?

oh, and how tech do you consider monstocity?