Ted Nugent talks about our eroding rights

Pot: Meet Kettle.

: I AM AN AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE SHITHEEL (not my words, copied from the article.) (IN BEFORE ASCENSION SAYS I'M NAME CALLING!!)

this morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US department of energy.
I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility.
After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the national weather service of the national oceanographic and atmospheric administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the national aeronautics and space administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US department of agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the food and drug administration.

At the appropriate time as regulated by the US congress and kept accurate by the national institute of standards and technology and the US naval observatory, I get into my national highway traffic safety administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads build by the local, state, and federal departments of transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the environmental protection agency, using legal tender issed by the federal reserve bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US postal service and drop the kids off at the public school.

After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the department of labor and the occupational safety and health administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to ny house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal's inspection, and which has not been plundered of all it's valuables thanks to the local police department.

I then log on to the internet which was developed by the defense advanced research projects administration and post on freerepublic.com and fox news forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can't do anything right.


That was pretty good, Nailz. I mean that. I'm not sure I could have come up with all of those government agencies.

A few random thoughts and initial reactions:

1. What has the cost been to the American people for all of the above? We're over a trillion dollars in debt -- and climbing. We're mired in red tape, waste, fraud, and corruption. Whereas you apparently see government as a loving grandmother cradling all of us in her tender arms, others see government as an octopus with tentacles that reach into too many places, especially our wallets. You see government as helpful at every turn. Others see a government they can't get away from. Regardless, what isn't arguable is that all of the services you cite as being wonderful cost us way too much -- more than we have, more than we ever will have, and more than is good for our economy, which is one of the reasons why we're in a deep recession. Government is taking more money from the private sector than the private sector can pump back into the economy. It's very, very simple. Economics 101.

2. While it's not arguable that government is supposed to provide necessary services (police and fire being but two) an argument can be made about the quality or effectiveness of many of the services you cite -- the public school system, for example. No one -- from either side of the aisle -- believes the public school system works any more. Many believe it is an abject failure. And how many bridges, buildings, and other public facilities have collapsed, sometimes killing people, because some lazy government official mis-read, mis-handled, or was paid to ignore critical information? Every one of the government agencies you cite has not been immune from the red tape, fraud, and corruption I mentioned in #1.

3. Regarding socialized medicine, all I can do is point to how it's run in other countries (Canada, UK, Europe, for example). I have friends in those countries. Many tell me about long lines waiting, about substandard care, and about crushing taxes to pay for it all. UK's Daniel Hannan (MEP) has repeatedly warned the U.S. not to follow in England's footsteps. America's health care leads the world in quality and innovation. I do not trust our government to improve it. On the contrary, I know our government will destroy it. The health care bill is one hell of a scary document -- especially if you're over 65. Apparently, our current government thinks old people should die and get out of the way. Health care rationing is a better descriptor for the health-care reform Obama proposes. I'm not sure if you've read the health care bills snaking their way through Congress. But you're not alone. Obama hasn't either. Nor has 98% of the members of Congress. I've read a lot of it. I've heard about a lot of it on talk-radio programs. The bills are nightmares. Total disasters. No wonder senior citizens are storming town hall meetings to raise hell. They don't want to be denied care just because they're of a certain age.

4. You seem to romanticize government services while ignoring their many downsides, accepting all government services as equally good. Or just. Or even Constitutional. America's form of government is unique. Our Constitution was written to severely limit the federal government -- precisely so that it didn't become the all-encompassing entity you just wrote that it is. So instead of looking at government and saying, "Wow. Look at everything government does to help me get through my day" you should look at each government service and ask, "Did the Constitution allow the federal government to do this?" I think you'd be surprised how many times your answer would be "No."

5. The Federal Reserve is a good thing? Many believe it is at the root of America's -- as well as the world's -- problems. Our Founding Fathers did not want paper money. That's why Article I Section 8 states:

The Congress shall have power...To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

And why Article I Section 10 states:

No state shall...coin money...make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts...

What that means is this: Only Congress can coin money. And the choice of the word "coin" was not an accident. Paper money existed back then. But real money was considered by the Framers as something of substance, metal. But if, over time, Congress decide to do something other than coin money (like unconstitutionally hand over money-making authority to a private banking cartel called the Federal Reserve), the states have a check on that: "No state shall....making anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts."

These provisions of the Constitution have never been repealed, which means (a) Congress has violated the Constitution by creating the Federal Reserve, and (b) states violate the Constitution every single day by making something (Federal Reserve Notes) other than "gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts."

I have an extensive bibliography if you'd like to read more about the conservative/independent approach to our government. It's about three dozen books long. But it'll be an eye-opener.

The best book that's come out in a long time, however, is Mark R. Levin's [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Liberty-Tyranny-Conservative-Mark-Levin/dp/1416562850/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1249066530&sr=1-1"]Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto[/ame]. This book should be read by every American citizen. And it nearly has been. It's been at or near the top of the New York Times Bestseller list since it was released three months ago. Millions of people are reading it. And I'm thrilled. The more people who read that book, the fewer people Washington and the state-run media will be able to con.

Bottom line: Government isn't the wonderful, harmless entity you make it out to be in your post. Once you compare what it's doing to what the Constitution allows it to do, you'll see why so many people are beyond worried. They're scared shitless.

Bill
 
How true, but as far as the healtcare portion goes, if it is run like the Armed Forces Medical program, it will provide a very high level of health-care, and this is from someone how has used this healtcare for almost 4o years.

I don't understand why they can't implement this nationally. VA coverage is fucking awesome. "Oh, you're sick? Have a seat, we'll be with you FOR FREE."
 
I don't understand why they can't implement this nationally. VA coverage is fucking awesome. "Oh, you're sick? Have a seat, we'll be with you FOR FREE."

Do you seriously believe that? I've only heard horror story after horror story of denied coverage, interminable delays in treatment, lost paperwork and double or triple billing -- the works.

I've never met a vet who thought he was well cared for by the VA. Not one. In fact, it's the VA the vets point to and say, "See! THIS is why we don't want government-run health care."

I need to hang around you more often. You must lead a charmed life.

Bill
 
Apparently. My Stepdad and my SO both have been treated at VA hospitals for problems quickly and efficiently. There was a bit of a problem with my Stepdad's loss of hearing when he got back from Iraq, but a quick call to the senator had everything cleared right up.
 
Do you seriously believe that? I've only heard horror story after horror story of denied coverage, interminable delays in treatment, lost paperwork and double or triple billing -- the works.

I've never met a vet who thought he was well cared for by the VA. Not one. In fact, it's the VA the vets point to and say, "See! THIS is why we don't want government-run health care."

I need to hang around you more often. You must lead a charmed life.

Bill

Bill, it is not all the VA hospitals that are like this, in fact most are very efficent and the people get excellent care. The same can be said for private hospitals also, it's just the VA gets more publicity. Plus the VA and Armed forces MEdical system is not in the business of treamnet for profit, they just want a breakeven point on services. Yes as a vet we do pay a little for VA use but it is a fraction of the private sector. Case in point: Now this is what the cost would be for someone not a Vet

Angioplasty:

VA in El Paso Texas - $4,500

Sierria Medical El Paso Texas - $18,500

Big difference

Now as a retiree i have the option of going to WBAMC or the VA or to a private Dr. I choose the Private Dr, due to the long wait for an appt. or the maybe 2 hour wait in the clinic as a walk-in vs. 15 wait at my Dr, and guaranteed same day appt. Granted I have to pay a co-pay and a family dedutible ($25 co-pay and family dedutible of $400 per calendar year) but it is worth it. But if I am suffering a heartattack and can't get to Sierria( the best heart hospital in El Paso) you damn right i want to go to WBAMC which is a Level one trauma center, with every specialty of Dr available within 5 minutes.

Would the military healthcare system blueprint work, oh hell yes and very well.
 
It's pretty awesome to know that someone thinks that the military HC could work who actually has experienced it. If only they could implement it without fucking everything up...
 
(Away for a few days.... Then the Forum was responding so slow one night I just gave up on it.)

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think he was referring to PACs and their influence over what laws get passed and which do not.

Perhaps so.... But if ANYONE thinks PACs are solely made up of corporate and industrial lobbyists.....well, that's just silly. Unions, cause-based organizations (both on the left and the right), etc. account for a huge number of them.

BTW Nailz, are you going this year? I'd like to meet you and have a beer with you.

+ 1

Except that I don't drink beer. I'm a cheap date. :heh:


By the way.

Boobies are awesome. And much more fun to debate!

Ahem. Please refer to them as "fun-bags," the officially accepted term, in the future. :lol:

From my understanding, Gates proved to the officer that it was his house and made a "yo mama" joke. That's not grounds for arrest unless if it was in a public place which it wasn't. The comments were made in his house.

Incorrect. The comments were actually made after he chased the officer out of his house...he was yelling epithets. Which is why he was arrested and briefly detained for making a disturbance.

Interestingly, most news articles have stated he was arrested "in his own home" which was not the case.

So why am I afraid of government run socialized medicine? Because it will be a paperwork nightmare, with extremely high administrative costs, with the potential of our government fucking it up royally. Sure, they might get it right, but I don't want to take the chance that they don't with anybody's health and life. It won't decrease costs, we just won't be paying a monthly premium or having it deducted from our paychecks. Instead, it will cost a hell of a lot more (since they're not doing anything to reduce the cost of the healthcare from the providers), but we'll just be paying for it once every April 15.

Absolutely. And their estimates of the overall costs will prove to be way too low. The same thing happened with the Prescription Drug Bill -- costs nearly tripled.
Hell, they couldn't even get it right with the Cash for Clunkers program, for a "mere" billion dollars (soon to be increased to 3 billion, yay).

After seeing Obama's speech about the new regulations to be placed on private health insurance providers, there's no way they'll last more than two years when they are forced to compete with a public insurance provider that can operate at a loss. Presto! You'll be getting your medical insurance from the government.....or not at all.

Why don't they do something about the COST of healthcare in this country? Fix the damn tort laws!

Re-quoted for emphasis.



It's interesting....I'm re-reading Atlas Shrugged and some of the parallels with today's America are uncanny. And, of course, frightening.
 
Absolutely. And their estimates of the overall costs will prove to be way too low. The same thing happened with the Prescription Drug Bill -- costs nearly tripled.
Hell, they couldn't even get it right with the Cash for Clunkers program, for a "mere" billion dollars (soon to be increased to 3 billion, yay).

After seeing Obama's speech about the new regulations to be placed on private health insurance providers, there's no way they'll last more than two years when they are forced to compete with a public insurance provider that can operate at a loss. Presto! You'll be getting your medical insurance from the government.....or not at all.

I also think it is mighty convenient that that little story didn't mention the one part of the government that has been recently created and it a model of efficiency, well though out, and well implemented: the TSA.
 
I also think it is mighty convenient that that little story didn't mention the one part of the government that has been recently created and it a model of efficiency, well though out, and well implemented: the TSA.

Oh Yeah, that is a model for Government inefficency and waste. Give a former minimum wage earner(contracted security companies) a raise and a badge and tell him/her(got to politically correct here) they are the frontline of our nation's security, and watch them turn into assholes overnight.
 
Yeah....the govt. is not perfect, we can all agree on that, but neither is an unfettered free market system. Yes, there will be govt administrative agencies dealing with a national health care system, but how is that any different than what we have now with insurance companies? The system sucks bad, and the way it is set up now, the health of the individual is the last thing that is looked at.
 
Nice one...


A woman in a hot air balloon realized she was lost. She lowered her altitude and spotted a man in a boat below.

She shouted to him, "Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don't know where I am."
The man consulted his portable GPS and replied, "You're in a hot air balloon, approximately 30 feet above a ground elevation of 2,346 feet above sea level.
You are at 31 degrees, 14.97 minutes north latitude and
100 degrees, 49.09 minutes west longitude.
"She rolled her eyes and said, "You must be a Republican."
"I am," replied the man. "How did you know?"
"Well," answered the balloonist, "everything you told me is technically correct. But I have no idea what to do with your information, and I'm still lost.
Frankly, you've not been much help to me."
The man smiled and responded, "You must be an Obama Democrat."
"I am," replied the balloonist. "How did you know?"

"Well," said the man, "you don't know where you are or where you are going. You've risen to where you are, due to a large quantity of hot air.

You made a promise you have no idea how to keep, and you expect me to solve your problem.

You're in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but somehow, now it's my fault !"
 
Nice one...


A woman in a hot air balloon realized she was lost. She lowered her altitude and spotted a man in a boat below.

She shouted to him, "Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don't know where I am."
The man consulted his portable GPS and replied, "You're in a hot air balloon, approximately 30 feet above a ground elevation of 2,346 feet above sea level.
You are at 31 degrees, 14.97 minutes north latitude and
100 degrees, 49.09 minutes west longitude.
"She rolled her eyes and said, "You must be a Republican."
"I am," replied the man. "How did you know?"
"Well," answered the balloonist, "everything you told me is technically correct. But I have no idea what to do with your information, and I'm still lost.
Frankly, you've not been much help to me."
The man smiled and responded, "You must be an Obama Democrat."
"I am," replied the balloonist. "How did you know?"

"Well," said the man, "you don't know where you are or where you are going. You've risen to where you are, due to a large quantity of hot air.

You made a promise you have no idea how to keep, and you expect me to solve your problem.

You're in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but somehow, now it's my fault !"

I Love this quoted for factual truth
 
Yeah....the govt. is not perfect, we can all agree on that, but neither is an unfettered free market system. Yes, there will be govt administrative agencies dealing with a national health care system, but how is that any different than what we have now with insurance companies?

Easy: the government will be placing stiff new requirements on public health insurers, which will drive their costs up. They'll have to raise their rates to try and stay in business. Meanwhile the government will ride in with their public health insurance option. Since it's a government entity it need not make a profit...in fact, the odds are it will operate at a loss.

Result: within two years of the enactment of ObamaCare, perhaps as long as three, all the private insurers will collapse, victims of overregulation and unfair competition. We'll be left with a government monopoly on health insurance, and the bureaucracy will determine whether you are entitled to care. Health-care rationing will follow, just as it has followed in Canada, Great Britain and elsewhere. And the Federal deficit will balloon -- in fact, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office has now determined that, contrary to the Administration's predictions, there will be no savings over time and the costs to the American people will simply increase.

Sorry about the long answer...but you asked.

We're already being prepped for the demise of the private health insurers (Blue Cross/Blue Shield, Kaiser, etc.) There was an op-ed piece in the LA Times basically slagging the private health insurance industry. They're an easy target, but I don't think they all deserve to die.
 
We're already being prepped for the demise of the private health insurers (Blue Cross/Blue Shield, Kaiser, etc.) There was an op-ed piece in the LA Times basically slagging the private health insurance industry. They're an easy target, but I don't think they all deserve to die.

Agreed on your stance on this issue. It's pure economics. Government will drive the private insurers out of business. Looks good now, until you can't get the quality of health care we have now. In 5 years, we wish we had the system we currently have in place.
 
When I read this debate about the so called "ObamaCare" which would at last entitle every US citizens some decent health care like we do have in Europe I really can't figure out why there are still people yapping about "socialism" or increasing taxes or whatnot. Just have a look at the European countries behind the English speaking Great Britain, (surprisingly, there's life on the Continent who don't communicate in English, did you know?) especially Scandinavia, and you may find out how to manage decent public health care for ALL citizens with reasonable cost, you don't need to invent the wheel again.
Btw. European average health care costs are only half of the sum your private system in the USA takes while still leaving 1/8 of the nation out of the coverage.

Just a example from my own family: During the past 20 yrs my father has gone through two loin joint replacement operations, one open heart operation for four bypasses and a radiation treatment for prostata cancer on our national healt care and he only had to pay a few hundred euros nominal fee for each case. Majority of our citizens agree to pay some more taxes for that and many more public benefits, like free university education. And we do not see that as "socialism" but rather common sense and national wisdom.
 
Nice one...


A woman in a hot air balloon realized she was lost. She lowered her altitude and spotted a man in a boat below.

She shouted to him, "Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don't know where I am."
The man consulted his portable GPS and replied, "You're in a hot air balloon, approximately 30 feet above a ground elevation of 2,346 feet above sea level.
You are at 31 degrees, 14.97 minutes north latitude and
100 degrees, 49.09 minutes west longitude.
"She rolled her eyes and said, "You must be a Republican."
"I am," replied the man. "How did you know?"
"Well," answered the balloonist, "everything you told me is technically correct. But I have no idea what to do with your information, and I'm still lost.
Frankly, you've not been much help to me."
The man smiled and responded, "You must be an Obama Democrat."
"I am," replied the balloonist. "How did you know?"

"Well," said the man, "you don't know where you are or where you are going. You've risen to where you are, due to a large quantity of hot air.

You made a promise you have no idea how to keep, and you expect me to solve your problem.

You're in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but somehow, now it's my fault !"

Nice try...30+ years of Reagan-omics have gutted the middle class and turned this country into a consumer nation from a producer nation, directly leading to the mess we're in ( Bush, Clinton and Bush are to blame too). We've had 6 months of Obama, yet it's all his fault. Face it, conservative policies have messed up the country, and now they sit back and say that they know how to fix everything (riiiiigghhht!). They futz up the government so that they can say "government is the problem!". Yep..."cons"...a better term could not be more descriptive.
 
30+ years of Reagan-omics have gutted the middle class and turned this country into a consumer nation from a producer nation, directly leading to the mess we're in.

Reagan & his policies had nothing to do with it. NAFTA which paved the way of deindustrialization of the US is to blame for it...under Bush Sr & Clinton. And of course, Clinton pushing mortgage lenders to lower their standards of qualification.


We've had 6 months of Obama, yet it's all his fault.

Of course it's not according to Omessiah...it's all Bush's fault...but he's not going to put any blame on the Dem Congress...oh no. He needs to quit the blame game...he knew the deal he was getting when he took the job. He is continuously sounding like a whiny little bitch.
 
Nice try...30+ years of Reagan-omics have gutted the middle class and turned this country into a consumer nation from a producer nation, directly leading to the mess we're in ( Bush, Clinton and Bush are to blame too).

How did this take place, exactly? Please be specific and cite details.

We've had 6 months of Obama, yet it's all his fault. Face it, conservative policies have messed up the country, and now they sit back and say that they know how to fix everything (riiiiigghhht!). They futz up the government so that they can say "government is the problem!". Yep..."cons"...a better term could not be more descriptive.

Your next research project is to look up the Community Reinvestment Act and explain why it was passed and how it forced mortgage lenders to lend to high-risk customers.
Then, you can explain why George W. Bush's attempts to reform the two quasi-governmental mortgage giants, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- whose collapse triggered the financial downturn -- were blocked by the Democratic Congress.
Twice.
Also, you can tell us how much PAC money that politicians received from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. On a per annum basis, the biggest recipient's name will be no stranger to this discussion.

When I read this debate about the so called "ObamaCare" which would at last entitle every US citizens some decent health care like we do have in Europe

You're a bit behind the times. As the Obama Administration has now realized, Americans are actually quite happy with their health care. In fact, by law, hospital emergency rooms MUST treat anyone who is badly hurt or in a life-treatening medical emergency. The perception overseas that Americans are wandering around without access to healthcare is a myth.

So, the debate has now been turned, as of Obama's big primetime speech last week, into health INSURANCE reform. After all, no-one wants to actually PAY for health-care; it should be provided somehow, magically, by the government.

I really can't figure out why there are still people yapping about "socialism" or increasing taxes or whatnot. Just have a look at the European countries behind the English speaking Great Britain,

Are you saying that Great Britain's socialized medical program is abysmal because they speak English? Or just...because?

(surprisingly, there's life on the Continent who don't communicate in English, did you know?)

No! Really?!

especially Scandinavia, and you may find out how to manage decent public health care for ALL citizens with reasonable cost, you don't need to invent the wheel again.

We don't need to reinvent the wheel NOW, actually. We're talking about pouring a trillion and a half dollars into -- ultimately -- a public-only option in this country.

Obama tells us that the number of uninsured in this country is around 48 million...but that includes approximately 20 million illegal aliens (sorry, 'undocumented workers') whose votes the Democrats crave. The actual number of chronically underinsured American citizens is, depending on who you ask, between 8 and 14 million people. That's a very small percentage, overall.

Btw. European average health care costs are only half of the sum your private system in the USA takes while still leaving 1/8 of the nation out of the coverage.

How does the survival rate compare to the US?

Reagan & his policies had nothing to do with it. NAFTA which paved the way of deindustrialization of the US is to blame for it...under Bush Sr & Clinton. And of course, Clinton pushing mortgage lenders to lower their standards of qualification.

That's the infamous CRA, or Community Reinvestment Act, that I mentioned earlier.

I think the elected official most responsible for the meltdown is Rep. Barney Frank (D) Mass.


Of course it's not according to Omessiah...it's all Bush's fault...but he's not going to put any blame on the Dem Congress...oh no. He needs to quit the blame game...he knew the deal he was getting when he took the job. He is continuously sounding like a whiny little bitch.

While people continue to like Obama as a person, even the most recent ABC and CBS polls (they typically try to skew their polls to the left) are showing eroding public support for ObamaCare.

Did you know the GOP has a more sensible and far less costly solution to the healthcare "crisis"? One that includes tort reform?
Yeah, I didn't either. Not until earlier this evening, anyway.
 
You're a bit behind the times. As the Obama Administration has now realized, Americans are actually quite happy with their health care. In fact, by law, hospital emergency rooms MUST treat anyone who is badly hurt or in a life-treatening medical emergency. The perception overseas that Americans are wandering around without access to healthcare is a myth.

Except emergency cases which are self explanatory for the right to receive treatment in any country, there are still millions of people in the USA who can't afford such common things like tooth care or certain non-urgent treatment because they completely lack a health insurance coverage. Access to emergency room at acute illness doesn't comply with full health insurance.


So, the debate has now been turned, as of Obama's big primetime speech last week, into health INSURANCE reform. After all, no-one wants to actually PAY for health-care; it should be provided somehow, magically, by the government.

This makes me wonder about the mentality of different nations. The public opinion here has always been that people are willing to pay even more taxes if necessary in order to receive equal health care and treatment for every citizen. Maybe "welfare country" isn't too far from the truth, even in the USA it may be rather a curse phrase with negative meanings.

The "government" in American media has become a hoax to blame for everything. Actually the government doesn't provide anything but with leadership, sometimes better sometimes poorer, it's the citizens who finance EVERYTHING and government should decide about the best possible use of the collected common money. Unfortunately politics has become dirty business with too many hands trying to snatch from the common purse. We in Europe are in the same boat with this, lobbyists have gained too much power already.


Are you saying that Great Britain's socialized medical program is abysmal because they speak English? Or just...because?

LOL, no... though Brits like many other countries have downgraded their health care system since the good old days of the 80's. I was only referring to the fact that hardly too many Americans can understand foreign languages which limits their means to find out solutions or models from other countries to decide their own opinion. For me it's kind of compulsory to know english and a couple of other foreign languages because my mother tongue will be pretty useless outside of this country.




We don't need to reinvent the wheel NOW, actually. We're talking about pouring a trillion and a half dollars into -- ultimately -- a public-only option in this country.

Why public-only? They can't shut down private sector though. We have co-existing public and private sectors. Anyone willing to pay an extra insurance (or get one paid by the employer) may choose which services to use. The private works maybe faster with less queueing at non-urgent cases but the services are basically equal.

According to Nationmaster.com USA is splurging money on healthcare when compared to European countries.

The total expenditure on health as % of GDP tells it even better.

The actual number of chronically underinsured American citizens is, depending on who you ask, between 8 and 14 million people. That's a very small percentage, overall.
Well, we have none.

How does the survival rate compare to the US?
I never heard that there was any significant difference. Maybe these statistics about the average amount of healthy years in life will enlighten the answer to that question:

Life expectancy > Female healthy years
Life expectancy > Male healthy years


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