That "Clayman" sound....

[guy in latvia]

Going to film a video how to use this technique?

 

[brianhood]

Going to film a video how to use this technique?

yes! It's just a small part of a much larger guitar tone segment.

 

[Heabow]

^ Great!!

 

[guy in latvia]

Awesome!

 

[Fluffbot]

When making my band's first album I read and reread this thread every day! Awesome.

 

[ArsMemoria]

Love all of the information in this thread. One thing that I wasn't clear on is how do you guys mix the two mics after recording. Early in the thread, it's mentioned to have the on-axis signal lower than the off-axis, but somewhere Glenn mentions the opposite. Just curious if I've misread parts of the thread.

 

[He's Dead, Jim]

I would assume the off-axis is a lot louder just by listening to the tone. It has that thick, gnarly sound you get from an off-axis mic. I think the on-axis is brought in just enough to give it the high-end you want.

 

[Zerochance]

Thanks for bringing this thread back to life! I'm just now getting familiarized with Glenn and his YouTube channel, so it's awesome to read a thread when he's askign for guidance, like the rest of us.

 

[brianhood]

I personally mixed my off-axis mic in about 6 to 10 db quieter than the on-axis mic.

100% on-axis mic=too bright
100% off-axis mic=too dark
50/50= combined to be too bassy

the more I lowered the off-axis mic, the more high end that came through. I just reduced it until I found the perfect balance.

 

[ArsMemoria]

That's what my observation has been. I didn't care for the off-axis mic to be louder, but the other way sounded better to me. Would like to test it out more though.

 

[Heabow]

I personally mixed my off-axis mic in about 6 to 10 db quieter than the on-axis mic.

If I remember well, I read an old interview where Nordstrom says he used to do that way.

 

[P-E]

To add on what you've said, that's also what's written earlier in the thread, IIRC it was TheStoryteller that told us first about that method.

 

[Signals]

If anyone wants an easy way to do Fredman mic'ing without messing with two stands, I sell a special mic clip that latches two SM57's together at 45 degrees to make it easy. A lot easier to move it around and try different positions without lining the two mics up every time.

Fredman mic'ing is bomb.

http://www.wilkinsonaudio.com/product/fredman-mic-clip/

Cheers,

Alex

 

[mephetic_exhumation]

That's an awesome idea. Never got to mess with fredman, but I absolutely have to give it a shot one day.

 

[==>Alb<==]

the last saturday I reamped guitars for a metalcore band called LIE FOR A SECRET through a 6505, a marshall cabinet loaded with v30s and two sm57 with the fredman technique, B position, and it sounds great!
Very good and pleasant sound to the ears, it needed very very little eq just to fit the mix and it's awesome.
Also I reamped the bass with the same rig :-D just rolled off the resonance and the gain knob :-D

 

[iraklis7302]

Sorry about the guitar timing... it's a bit sloppy.

Rhythm tracks are Lead channel and Nordstr&#246;m method with the mics I said before, and lead/ambient tracks are Rhythm channel (go figure) with the SM57 straight on, just one mic.

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/jelmiger/mp3/5150 Nordstrom Mics.mp3

As for pictures, don't be fooled by the NT1-A's funny angle, the diaphragm is pointed pretty much straight at the dustcap, on-axis.

From the front:

Longer view above and to the left:

From directly above:

Enjoy, and let me know what you think!

could you please re-upload your mp3 track with Nordstrom Mics.mp3?and lso your 5150 combo mic pics?thank you again

 

[rapucore]

could you please re-upload your mp3 track with Nordstrom Mics.mp3?and lso your 5150 combo mic pics?thank you again

Nearly a decade old clip and pics he most likely will not have anymore? Good luck with that.