the best produced song ever...what do you think?

[Harry Hughes]

I love everything about that album ASIDE from the snare sound. I loved the snare on Riot!

It is so artificial It sticks out of the mix like a sore thumb. All they had to do was pick a sample with a bit more low mids and less high, lower it a dB, and that album would be sonically perfect.

I can see what you mean, but honestly, it doesn't bother me, I'm glad BNE sounds different from Riot! in every way, so I actually liked the snare, artificial sounding or not.

 

[Morgan C]

I love everything about that album ASIDE from the snare sound. I loved the snare on Riot!

It is so artificial It sticks out of the mix like a sore thumb. All they had to do was pick a sample with a bit more low mids and less high, lower it a dB, and that album would be sonically perfect.

That, and fix the cymbals (I honestly thought the drums were almost totally real and could forgive the awful sounding cymbals on account of the bleed, but then I realised it was almost completely sample replaced yet the cymbals still sound like shit.. no idea what he did to them). Bar the cymbals/snare, that album is amazing, seriously insane vocals.

Two best sounding albums ever imo are Blackwater Park and Reroute to Remain, both with (almost) totally natural drums, and the most killer vibes ever.

 

[jval]

weird, i was seriously underwhelmed by the production on Brand New Eyes. doesn't come close to what Bendeth did for them on RIOT.
CLA isn't one to rely much on samples and the mix on that record is far from his best work. Makes me think there were some problems with the actual raw tracks.
I also hate how the vocal is pretty gritty on a lot of songs... again, could be the mix but I'd bet it was in the tracking.

 

[colonel kurtz]

ANDY WALLACE (sevendust, Linkin Park)

pfft...finest examples of andy's mixes, IMO, would be evil empire and 13th step

dude is the KING of bass in heavy music

 

[Sweetnothing]

No Terry Date love here?
Agreed on Andy Wallace, and about brand new eyes...I have mixed feelings about that album, it sounds so polished, but disney polished to me, and the slower "come over here my lady" kinda songs are dominating the album IMO.
Riot! was a lot rawer from songwriting to sonics, however this one has CLA all over the place, and the vocal production is miles ahead.

 

[Pardi666]

Thats easy:

 

[Nuno Filipe]

Not a song but a album. Evergrey - Recreation Day

 

[stargazer7]

Best Production ?

Pink Floyd - The Division Bell

...yes, the enitire album.

 

[tearsofthedragon]

Iron maiden - powerslave \m/ \m/ (or any of the 70's / 80's Martin Birch stuff).

More recent...

Children of Bodom - HCDR!

Nightwish - Once

Finvox sure can make great sounding albums!

 

[Steve08]

The entire album Cosmogenesis by Obscura is just phenomenal IMO.

 

[stargazer7]

Iron maiden - powerslave m/ m/ (or any of the 70's / 80's Martin Birch stuff).

More recent...

Children of Bodom - HCDR!

Nightwish - Once

Finvox sure can make great sounding albums!

Hmm...yeah

Nightwish - Once

I remember when I first heard that and said to myself: "Now THAT's the best Orchestral Metal mix I’ve ever heard."

...usually, when it comes to those kinds of sounds involving heavy distortion guitars and orchestra, something needs to be sacrificed frequency wise for either one or both since they are in the same kind of range. But on this album, it seemed like everything was full and intact. Definitely a breakthrough mix, to me: Much more dynamic and overall better sounding (not too mention, half the cost) than "Dark Passion Play".

...and yeah the Martin Birch produced mid 80's Maiden rules. The golden 3: PS, SIT, SSOASS

 

[greyskull]

weird, i was seriously underwhelmed by the production on Brand New Eyes. doesn't come close to what Bendeth did for them on RIOT.
CLA isn't one to rely much on samples and the mix on that record is far from his best work. Makes me think there were some problems with the actual raw tracks.
I also hate how the vocal is pretty gritty on a lot of songs... again, could be the mix but I'd bet it was in the tracking.

hahahahahaha.
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[plague_rider]

I also want to add

Pink Floyd - Money (the bit where they had the engineer run round the reverb chamber underneath Abbey Road Studios)

Parkway Drive - Feed 'em to the Pigs

Turisas - Holmgarde and Beyond

 

[Jind]

Pink Floyd - Money (the bit where they had the engineer run round the reverb chamber underneath Abbey Road Studios)

That engineer would be the great Alan Parsons. "Dark side of the Moon" is a great example of what a talented engineer can bring to the mix - he was responsible for much of the interesting sounding portions of that album. I was recently watching the new videos he is doing over at The Art & Science of Sound Recording and he mentions methods used on that album in a few of the videos that have been posted so far.

I'm really looking forward to the complete content once it is fully released, he goes into detail about recording and the engineering process broken donw into individual chapters. While much of it is somewhat basic, he does sneak in lots of useful tips and stories of his past recording. He's a funny chap as well. Once complete the DVD or download set from Alan Parsons is going to be a great information source for recording students and such.

He has lots of guests producers, engineers, and artists commenting on each aspect including Simon Phillips who I consider to be one of the worlds most wonderful drummers (he's a pretty damned good producer as well.) - if there was ever a drummer capable of filling in for Toto's Jeff Porcaro after his death, it was Simon Philips.

 

[plague_rider]

aye we had to analyse the track for a college essay (listening skills)

was intense!!

I love older production for the creativity involved (unless we're discussing black metal, as theres nothing creative about guitars that sound like a bee buzzing through a megaphone)

 

[GarethSE]

ive just realised how fucking incredibly layered and detailed monoliths and dimensions is. you can hear every aspect of everything's sound, it all fits together uttely perfectly and there's so much happening.

fuck i love having monitors. fsdjkgshdgjksdg

 

[plague_rider]

fuck i love having monitors. fsdjkgshdgjksdg

FUCKING + FUCKING 1

i was the same when i got my KRKs!!

 

[Rupturemetal]

I really like Behemoth- Enter the pylon, everything just sounds right to me

 

[tearsofthedragon]

Right on Stargazer! SSOASS = Amazing creative production!

I agreee with you about Once, although I also think Oceanborn is pretty well done as well - even though it's not a real orchestra, it sounds absolutley massive. I'd love to get a mix that good one day!

 

[stargazer7]

Right on Stargazer! SSOASS = Amazing creative production!

There is just something very special about SSOASS. Its hard to define as a single element. Its just the way everything sounds together. In a sense "Magical" sounding. The unique drum sound, the slightly chorused guitars, the synth pads...etc. Just the overall tone. Its so good. Whatever it is, it makes for one of my top 3 favorite metal albums (the others being Black Sabbath - Heaven & Hell, and Iron Maiden - Powerslave)