The -core thread

[swizzlenuts]

The Red Chord is really the only metalcore band I really like.

 

[Teh Grimace]

And I'm also a huge core music fan.

No you're not. Stop saying that.

I find it quite refreshing listening to some metal.
Its always going to be there for the young "heartbroken girls" so just get on with it

I haven't even fucking heard of any of these bands
apart from patton's shit and merzbow

You should... umm... hear them.

haha wtf is this thread??????????

itz ur mom.

The Red Chord is really the only metalcore band I really like.

Check out the following similar acts/albums:

The End - "Within Dividia"
Ion Dissonance - "Breathing Is Irrelevant"
Breather Resist - "Charmer"
Buried Inside - "Chronoclast"
Crowpath - "Red On Chrome" and "Son Of Sulfer"
Bodies In The Gears Of The Apparatus - "Simian Hybrid Prototype"

Also of course the incomparable Ed Gein, either of their full lengths are great, though their first album "It's A Shame A Family Can Be Torn Apart By Something As Simple As A Pack Of Wolves" is the most violent thing I may have ever witnessed.

And if you can find anything by the (sadly) little-known band The Luddite Clone, who released a handful of too-short discs, most notably through Relapse, before breaking up a few years ago (I guess), you'll be pleasantly surprised and astonished. They were truly one of a kind.

NP: Luddite Clone "The Arsonist & The Architect"

 

[Krigloch the Furious]

boooo

 

[Teh Grimace]

 

[sikth]

You listened to August burns red yet Grim? There recent album Thrill seeker is some seriously good techie hardcore shit!

For some reason I had the urge to listen to some Skycamfalling today, there probably the only emo-tinged metalcore band that actually sounds decent, tis a shame they split up!

 

[Necro Joe]

Where's a good place to start with Sikth, sikth?

 

[Alongside Death]

Sikth are nice but they sound a little bit nu-metal. From -core things I only like grindcore and some stuff by Unearth.

 

[Teh Grimace]

I had that August Burns Red before my big crash last year, I'll have to get it again. I remember it being good.

Sikth hardly resembles anything like nu-metal, with the rare exception of one of the vocalists sometimes having a System Of A Down quality at times. And even then, not really.

I actually haven't gotten their new album yet... the single I heard didn't particularly excite me, and I don't want to taint my view of a band I consider brilliant, so I'll just keep listening to their first one. (The Trees...)

 

[Velvet Creation]

Any opinions on DARKEST HOUR - UNDOING RUIN?? I think this album is amazing, be it core or death metal.

 

[Teh Grimace]

Other than the Slayer-worship intro and verse of "This Will Outlive Us", and the melodic bits of "Sound Of Surrender", I think they are sort of uninspired Thrice-worship. They're somewhat technically proficient, and the changes are tight, but there's just not enough diversity. I don't mind single-minded music, providing it's single-minded in a more obstinate-to-everything way. They just have too much of Thrice's four-on-the-floor rock influence, bouncy rock'n'roll (maybe somewhat death'n'roll) bits that I just can't get into. The chord changes come on the one-count, and there's really nothing to distinguish any of the melodic bits from the other melodic bits, since it's mostly the same 2 or 3 chord progressions every time.

But these are the same criticisms I can make about many bands. They're not bad, and when they do what they do, it's done well.

I'll tell you what I tell everyone who's looking for melodic metalcore... listen to 7 Angels 7 Plagues' album "Jhazmyne's Lullaby". Released in 2000 I think, it was everything Thrice and, for that matter Thursday or From Autum To Ashes or any other melodicore band since is trying to be. It's brutal and epic and raging and insanely catchy and every song, indeed every riff and chord change, is memorable and totally different from every other.

Best "proper" metalcore album I've ever heard, ever.

 

[Velvet Creation]

I fail to see how can Darkest Hour be similar to Thrice in any way, since Thrice is basicly alternative/punk music. Darkest Hour is far more aggressive, faster and less mainstream. I would say that, from the metalcore bands I heard so far, they are the closest ones to being considered more metal then 'core. Maybe with As I Lay Dying coming very close.

 

[Teh Grimace]

I fail to see how can Darkest Hour be similar to Thrice in any way, since Thrice is basicly alternative/punk music. Darkest Hour is far more aggressive, faster and less mainstream. I would say that, from the metalcore bands I heard so far, they are the closest ones to being considered more metal then 'core. Maybe with As I Lay Dying coming very close.

Darkest Hour isn't far more aggressive or fast than Thrice, they're just fast and aggressive more often. Darkest Hour isn't even particularly aggressive, they actually deal mostly in melodic Gothenberg riffs. And the other half of the time, they use mid-tempo head-bobbing Thrice beats and simple 1-2-3 chord progressions. Same elements as Thrice, with just a slight more emphasis on metal "aggression" and de-emphasis on the punk elements.

You want to hear some serious aggressive metalcore, check out the new Curl Up And Die album, or any of their albums for that matter. And anything by Burnt By The Sun.

Also...

Watchmaker (serious fucking brutality and dissonance)
Training For Utopia (serious fucking hate and aggression)
Taken (serious catchy melodies mixed with seriously fucking random acts of brutality that only last for a quick few seconds and also mixed with serious fucking black metal parts, oh yeah!)

and...

Shora - Shaping The Random
Love... Like Electrocution - S/T album
Gospel - The Moon Is A Dead World
Eyes Upon Separation - I Hope She's Having Nightmares
Backstabbers, Inc. - Evolution
A Javelin Reign - Wrath Of The Rice Cooker
Cult Of Luna - Salvation
Leng T'che - Death By A Thousand Cuts
Prayer For Cleansing - The Rain In Endless Fall

 

[Teh Grimace]

and THE CHARIOT!!

EVERYONE LISTEN TO THE FUCKING CHARIOT!!

Now that's a hardcore band to make metal fans like hardcore.

So br00tal, so tight, so skull krushingly intense.

Fucking unbelievably quality at all fucking times.

Fuck.

 

[LOS MAGANDOS]

The chariot?? Thrice ??
none of that shit is "hardcore" its overproduced crap.

hardcore is -

Minor Threat
Negative Approach
SS Decontrol
Millions of Dead Cops
The Necros
Youth Of Today
Slapshot
SNFU
DRI
Unit Pride
Septic Death

and the bands that still follow their example today like DS-13, Charles Bronson, the Oath, etc etc..

 

[Teh Grimace]

I'M SICK OF FUCKING METAL FANS SPOUTING THIS "OLD SKOOL HARDCORE IZ BETTER THAN STOOPID NU-HARDCORE" WHEN THEY HAVE NO CLUE.

If a hardcore fan came on a metal board and starting babbling about how the only good metal bands are Black Sabbath and Motorhead and Slayer and nothing worth a shit has come out in 20 years, they'd get fucking laughed at.

 

[LOS MAGANDOS]

I'M SICK OF FUCKING METAL FANS SPOUTING THIS "OLD SKOOL HARDCORE IZ BETTER THAN STOOPID NU-HARDCORE" WHEN THEY HAVE NO CLUE.

If a hardcore fan came on a metal board and starting babbling about how the only good metal bands are Black Sabbath and Motorhead and Slayer and nothing worth a shit has come out in 20 years, they'd get fucking laughed at.

hahah a little stressed are we???

who said i was just a metal fan ??? i love old school thrash which came from punk and hardcore..

ive been in to hardcore since around '88, what about you ???

saw the likes of the Accused, Gorilla Biscuits and Slapshot, Poison Idea plus too many to mention all live back in the day little one.........

nu hardcore = whatever that is is fuckin GAY ! with their tight black t shirts and dyed black gay lego hair hahaa

 

[Teh Grimace]

Oh, so you're an old geezer. I guess I can forgive you for not knowing shit about fuck and making ignorant generalizations, then.

 

[Teh Grimace]

And The Chariot's last album was recorded live-in-studio by the whole band, with no overdubs. You can hear the drummer doing a four-count with his sticks before some of the songs. What was that about "overproduced"...

 

[LOS MAGANDOS]

Oh, so you're an old geezer. I guess I can forgive you for not knowing shit about fuck and making ignorant generalizations, then.

your last reply was so idiotic, i just had to pull rank on you ....

now im not saying there arent a lot of later bands that took hardcore and injected some good influences into it...

INTEGRITY (Systems Overload being in my opinion their classic album) is a great example, an amazing fusion of metal and hardcore...

UNBROKEN is another one, as is CHOKEHOLD etc etc..

but its not "hardcore"...

 

[Teh Grimace]

who the fuck are you to say what hardcore is?