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The News Thread
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TechnicalBarbarity
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wow. what a faggot. Why the fuck would you take personal jabs at him? Because you're unable to argue with the guy? pure piece of shit.
CiG
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Liberals who support equality of opportunity and a mixed capitalist system have done much more for "minorities" than any cunt like you ever has.
Fascism: Get up against the wall... Fire!
Communism and Socialism: Get up against the wall, this has nothing to do with your race... Fire!
You piece of shit.
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I never take personal jabs against anyone that doesn't make them against me first. I forget exactly what he said because I don't care what it was, but he's done similar in one of these threads when he obviously had no argument. I think it was something along the lines of "Cuz you're a virgin lol" in the middle of an argument without anything else. I don't care about the content, if I cared about being respected I wouldn't post about my many personal failures that I've had in real life. There's no question that I'm a shitty human being, and I celebrate it on this forum. If it's just banter for fun that's one thing, but if you're going to waste my time pretending to have an argument and then pussy out and cower when you don't have one anymore, then fuck you, I'll say whatever I feel like. If Dak were an honest debater I could have an honest discussion with him, but he's just the counter part to Einherjar's little eternal circlejerk, two smug ivory tower dumbasses.
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Define liberal and the left. As late as the roaring 20's you had liberals (of the classical variety), leftists (of the Debs variety), and progressives (basically in the middle; the Roosevelts and whatnot) all more or less in support of minority rights.
Nate Skalman
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...My divorce was one of the BEST things that ever happened to me!!!!
TechnicalBarbarity
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so you're implying that you actually had an argument? After literally ignoring almost everything he said on the last page or so?
And again, "i cant take it anymore so let me try and take some personal pot-shots at him". You are a legit piece of shit, thats for sure.
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so you're implying that you actually had an argument? After literally ignoring almost everything he said on the last page or so?
And again, "i cant take it anymore so let me try and take some personal pot-shots at him". You area legit piece of shit, thats for sure.
He brought up "a shortage of marriageable males" as the full extent of his argument that leftism in China did not reduce gender roles. I didn't understand it, and when I asked him to elaborate, he replied "stick to your specific high school pedagogical material". Obviously you think he made a good argument, how about you explain what a shortage of marriageable males has to do with my claim that China has reduced gender roles compared to more traditionally socially conservative/half-liberal Western societies? Maybe he was arguing that gender-biased abortion is evidence of a failure to address social gender roles. He might have made a compelling argument had he tried going down that route, but I'm not going to make an argument against it until he makes his own to begin with.
I don't care about what a guy that breeds dogs for animal fights thinks of me, btw.
Nate Skalman
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IMO "left" is just the side you fall on..."liberal" is a sliding degree of how "far" left your sensibilities go....?
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That's one way of looking at it, and I can accept it if clearly defined upfront. In reality "sides" are constructions of a two-party political system though. I'm liberal on most social issues (gay rights, drug use, abortion, etc), but I'd never describe myself as leftist because I'm also a strong believer in the free market. Most American liberals aren't that far left; they may squabble with Republicans over a few percent here and there on taxes, they may want more welfare money while Republicans want more money for soldiers, and they divide themselves strongly on hot-button issues like abortion, but in the grand scheme of things, Democrats use leftist arguments just to establish a wide voter base. Many American liberals, especially those with economic power, hate actual hardcore leftists like Sanders.
TechnicalBarbarity
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Lolwut? oh yeah, in salvadorian neighborhood for coke money. No?
you have very colorful imagination.
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Lolwut? oh yeah, in salvadorian neighborhood for coke money. No?
You breed fighting dogs and you have an interest in dog fights, doesn't take much to put two and two together.
TechnicalBarbarity
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Lmfao, thanks for once again proving that you know nothing on the topic you're currently yapping about. Instead of saying that all leftist aren't that radically liberal, you say something as ridiculously retarded as that?
this guy is amazing.
CiG
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Liberalism is definitively an individualist philosophy and that's why liberal countries enshrine individual rights and protection for private property, whereas this cannot be said for the left more generally.
Liberalism consistently promotes the individual over the collective.
TechnicalBarbarity
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Oh shit i breed dogs? Fighting dogs at that?
This is fun. Keep going, what else do i do?
Nate Skalman
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Why is reduced gender roles/responsibility a good thing?...why is reduced ethnic identity a good thing? Those are opinions...I see your point in relation to China but that's a fucked off way to live. Americans are already depressed, lol...
Nate Skalman
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Political labels are harder to define based on how abstract and conflicting your sensibilities may be
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I wasn't really making too much of a statement on whether it's a good or bad thing and more just saying that communist nations did see a shift towards policies that could be described as removing gender and racial gaps. Meaning, not just stepping stones. If you're a communist dictator, you don't need stepping stones to get re-elected.
However, reduced gender roles are a good thing because it means women can become more self-sufficient, rather than depending on a man or the state to feed them and/or their children. It also means a greater number of people doing important work (e.g. science and engineering) that was previously relegated to only half of the population.
Ethnic identity in an ideal world would be non-existent. People wouldn't think about another person's ethnicity, people wouldn't need to think about their own. In the real world, of course, this is impossible. Evolution has made us to be racist, it's a basic part of group identity, keeping your group strong, holding competition away. However, to take away many of the pre-existing social barriers and turn a massive heterogeneous hodge-podge of a nation like China into one that doesn't care so much about all the differences between Han, Hmong, Zhang, etc ethicities is still a good thing.
Oh shit i breed dogs? Fighting dogs at that?
If you don't then you just show that you're a person that feels a need to lie about his own background in order to argue by authority.
TechnicalBarbarity
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Nate Skalman
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I think abortion bans are the stupidest fucking idea of all time- day after pills should come taped to the side of the liquor/beer bottle IMO, and I'm certainly not religious but my core values are conservative and I have no problem identifying myself as one...I'm also aware I don't always have to side with either.
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