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HamburgerBoy said:
I wasn't really making too much of a statement on whether it's a good or bad thing and more just saying that communist nations did see a shift towards policies that could be described as removing gender and racial gaps. Meaning, not just stepping stones. If you're a communist dictator, you don't need stepping stones to get re-elected.

However, reduced gender roles are a good thing because it means women can become more self-sufficient, rather than depending on a man or the state to feed them and/or their children. It also means a greater number of people doing important work (e.g. science and engineering) that was previously relegated to only half of the population.

Ethnic identity in an ideal world would be non-existent. People wouldn't think about another person's ethnicity, people wouldn't need to think about their own. In the real world, of course, this is impossible. Evolution has made us to be racist, it's a basic part of group identity, keeping your group strong, holding competition away. However, to take away many of the pre-existing social barriers and turn a massive heterogeneous hodge-podge of a nation like China into one that doesn't care so much about all the differences between Han, Hmong, Zhang, etc ethicities is still a good thing.



If you don't then you just show that you're a person that feels a need to lie about his own background in order to argue by authority.
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Good dialogue...I disagree on the "scope", per se of the gender role but I'm just asking questions...
 
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TechnicalBarbarity said:
wow. what a faggot. Why the fuck would you take personal jabs at him? Because you're unable to argue with the guy? pure piece of shit.
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HamburgerBoy said:
I never take personal jabs against anyone that doesn't make them against me first. I forget exactly what he said because I don't care what it was, but he's done similar in one of these threads when he obviously had no argument. I think it was something along the lines of "Cuz you're a virgin lol" in the middle of an argument without anything else. I don't care about the content, if I cared about being respected I wouldn't post about my many personal failures that I've had in real life. There's no question that I'm a shitty human being, and I celebrate it on this forum. If it's just banter for fun that's one thing, but if you're going to waste my time pretending to have an argument and then pussy out and cower when you don't have one anymore, then fuck you, I'll say whatever I feel like. If Dak were an honest debater I could have an honest discussion with him, but he's just the counter part to Einherjar's little eternal circlejerk, two smug ivory tower dumbasses.
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LOL you somehow got the impression I'm divorced? Even if I were, I would echo TBs sentiment. You overrate your knowledge of UM posters, other cultures, logic, and apparently bluecollarness (since you think somehow I'm ivory tower). I'm not going to engage you in nuanced arguments when you lack fundamental understanding of the topics you engage in which could be rectified by a perusal of wikipedia.
 
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CASSETTEISGOD said:
Liberalism consistently promotes the individual over the collective.
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Not in the Untied States it doesnt. Its literally the opposite, and i thought you'd be one of the last people here id need to tell this to.

Liberals=groupthink

Again, you guys need to stop mixing up the liberals of today here stateside, who arent even TRUE liberals btw, with liberalism in other places and other times.
 
TechnicalBarbarity said:
Not in the Untied States it doesnt. Its literally the opposite, and i thought you'd be one of the last people here id need to tell this to.

Liberals=groupthink

Again, you guys need to stop mixing up the liberals of today here stateside, who arent even TRUE liberals btw, with liberalism in other places and other times.
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Everything in America is a retarded version of something else it seems.

But yes I'm aware that it doesn't go for American liberals (so-called liberals) though it certainly does go for the American constitution. Perhaps the most perfected example of liberalism in history.
 
Possibly the most perfect example of virtue signalling is pulling down statues and pretending like it's helping anybody or anything.

Like that guy in the video said, at least the monument brings some tourism to the area that can be utilized by local businesses.
But these historically illiterate turds are just so obsessively, absolutely wrapped up in symbolism.

It's a fucking statue and people make the comparison to Jews living in a neighborhood with statues of Adolf Hitler, as if that is an even remotely similar comparison.
 
Dak said:
LOL you somehow got the impression I'm divorced? Even if I were, I would echo TBs sentiment. You overrate your knowledge of UM posters, other cultures, logic, and apparently bluecollarness (since you think somehow I'm ivory tower). I'm not going to engage you in nuanced arguments when you lack fundamental understanding of the topics you engage in which could be rectified by a perusal of wikipedia.
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Wow I am totally blowing it these days, I could have sworn you had a history of complaining about your ex-wife and gaining custody of your daughter. My apologizes for lacking a good insult. I'd say I need to spend more time on this forum but I really don't.

You still lack an argument. China has one of the smallest male:female suicide gaps in the world (the others are either Islamic or North Korea), a general expectation that women will participate in the labor force, a higher percentage of women following the STEM meme than many other developing nations, etc.

Here's a Wikipedia article for you to peruse if that's good enough for you:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_inequality_in_China
 
CASSETTEISGOD said:
Possibly the most perfect example of virtue signalling is pulling down statues and pretending like it's helping anybody or anything.

Like that guy in the video said, at least the monument brings some tourism to the area that can be utilized by local businesses.
But these historically illiterate turds are just so obsessively, absolutely wrapped up in symbolism.

It's a fucking statue and people make the comparison to Jews living in a neighborhood with statues of Adolf Hitler, as if that is an even remotely similar comparison.
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Not that I think statues are an important issue, and certainly not statues of non-Confederates, but I don't see much of a difference between American slave owners to slaves, vs Nazis to Jews. How do you think TechBarb would react with a statue of this beautiful man in his neighborhood?

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Slave owners owned slaves, then didn't own them. Many were even abolitionists.

Adolf Hitler exterminated people, The Ottoman Empire exterminated Armenians.
Yes, a huge amount of slaves were murdered etc but slavery and genocide are not morally equivalent.
 
don't think HBB understands the intense pressure that Chinese societies place on male heirs, so much so their history is riddled with texts begging women not to kill their female young.

Just because the labor gap is so large in China that it appears not to discriminate in terms of hiring does not mean China is at all pro-equality or something. This is a really fucking bad take HBB
 
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I could be wrong, but I didn't think HBB was saying that China is pro-equality, or progressive, or anything comparable. I thought he was suggesting that China's evidence of racism and gender bias isn't necessarily tied to its quasi-socialist agenda (and let's give credit where credit is due, China's socialism is a weird capitalist/globalist brand of socialism--it's strange).

I thought this entire argument stemmed from a comment about China being racist because they're socialist. But I'm not sure and I'm not going back 5+ pages to check.
 
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i have been skimming lately due to the amount of crap and replying to apathy for whatever damn reason, but Dak already addressed how Commi's are ethnically biased in China and racially discriminatory regionally. Gender, maybe, but Mao wanted everyone on the farm until he realized it was stupid -- and I imagine that movement was mostly men. I think that school children mission to the rural areas was predominantly male too
 
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