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[no country for old wainds]

also biden can’t string 5 words together without coughing lol. they’re both gonna fucking die

 

[CiG]

 

[crimsonfloyd]

Trump gets taken to the hospital. Could Pence break the record for the shortest presidential term ever?

McConnell is a gangster. Doesn't give a fuck if Trump dies as long as he gets his judges.

 

[CiG]

 

[Einherjar86]

Did he know it was Rick Moranis? Christ, haven’t heard that guy’s name since I was in grade school.

Trump gets taken to the hospital. Could Pence break the record for the shortest presidential term ever?

McConnell is a gangster. Doesn't give a fuck if Trump dies as long as he gets his judges.

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It’s reckless to go through with this. People who were at her nomination ceremony are testing positive. They should be quarantining—but of course, they don’t give a fuck.

These people suck.

 

[CiG]

Did he know it was Rick Moranis? Christ, haven’t heard that guy’s name since I was in grade school.

I doubt it, but it would be so fucking weird if he attacked him specifically because he knew who he was.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

It’s reckless to go through with this. People who were at her nomination ceremony are testing positive. They should be quarantining—but of course, they don’t give a fuck.

These people suck.

They don’t care if it’s reckless. They’ll do anything to win-that’s all they care about- and that’s why they run our justice system, the senate, and the presidency despite being a minority party in the US.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Sure is a great system where a body of government can only operate when physically present in a single building when its members are there at the exact same time. Not to mention our amazing election system that manages to keep chugging along despite quadrennial fraud and several constitutional crises over its history. Can't envision a system in the current era which would facilitate the transmission of a single bit of data, yea or nay, under our constitution. Clearly the most antiquated parts of our founding documents are the parts about freedom of speech and the right to bear arms, those are of ambiguous use in the modern era and should be updated.

 

[Bloopy]

Dodgy ticket reseller website Viagogo fined AU$7million. Excellent:
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2...agogo-to-pay-7m-fine-for-misleading-consumers

 

[CiG]

 

[Sirjack]

RIP Eddie Van Halen

 

[Baroque]

Damn.. EVH. I have to take a moment to process this one. He literally inspired me to play guitar in the beginning, changed my life. Don’t know what to say, what a loss of musical gift and talent for the world

 

[CiG]

These AntiFa-adjacent politicians are getting slimier and slimier by the day. AntiFa is not synonymous with simply opposing fascism, it's not just an idea lmfao and Biden is all of a sudden the go-to source for this claim? What a joke.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

And a quick step back to Arbery...

https://twitter.com/LordBalvin/status/1268564920788017155?s=19

Who is that witness? Is that the guy who was recording?

Googled and it is the guy who recorded the incident. He's a defendant too; not surprising that they would flip on each other. We'll see if there were other witnesses.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...wyers-say.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus



lol

 

[CiG]

Lying Kamala fabricated "history lesson" on Honest Abe during the debate.

 

[rms]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...wyers-say.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus

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lol

come on hbb, defendants claim he's lying? What's the worthwhile info here lol

 

[Einherjar86]

Lying Kamala fabricated "history lesson" on Honest Abe during the debate.

To be totally fair, she attributed motivation where we can't be sure of any--which is also what NR is doing. They're accusing her of inventing history as they do the same thing.

“Lincoln never actually explained the delay in his own words, so we don’t know his motivation,” Christian McWhirter, Lincoln Historian at the Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library and Museum, told us in an email.

McWhirter continued: “History is, of course, all about interpretation, so historians have mostly relied on context to draw conclusions. The 1864 election is certainly important context, as is the fact that the Senate was out of session until December 5. Things like that can provide clues for what Lincoln might have been thinking, but ultimately we can never know exactly.”

Congress, as McWhirter noted, was not in session when the vacancy arose — which means the Senate couldn’t have confirmed Lincoln’s selection until after the election, anyway. The Senate ultimately confirmed Chase a day after returning (and the same day Lincoln formally nominated him) on Dec. 6.

Historian Michael Burlingame in his book, “Abraham Lincoln: A Life,” wrote that “upon hearing the news” of Taney’s death “Lincoln said he would not nominate a replacement for Taney right away but would remain ‘shut pan’ for a while. Preoccupied with the election and his annual message, he postponed consideration of the matter until Congress met in December. In the meantime, he said that ‘he was waiting to receive expressions of public opinion from the Country.'” Burlingame, however, describes “such expressions” as letters about who to choose — not the results of the election.

In “Recollections of President Lincoln and His Administration,” Lincoln’s Register of Treasury, Lucius E. Chittenden, wrote that Lincoln had said earlier that year — in June, when Chase stepped down from Treasury secretary — that, if given the opportunity, “I will make him Chief Justice of the United States.” (Taney had been ill for some time.) Chittenden also wrote that Lincoln “had never contemplated any other” person for that vacancy.

The Trump campaign rejected Harris’ claim, too, citing historian and novelist Shelby Foote’s suggestion that Lincoln delayed nominating with a political calculation in mind: to ensure Chase’s “fervent support” leading up to the election.

Likewise, the Washington Post wrote: “The overarching effect of the delay is that it held Lincoln’s broad but shaky coalition of conservative and radical Republicans together. And it kept rivals like Chase in line.”

McWhirter said that whether such a political calculation was a factor in “potentially delaying the nomination is … open to interpretation.”

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/kamala-harris-honest-abe-and-the-supreme-court/

 

[CiG]

Oh I didn't realize the video I posted cited its own interpretation. I wouldn't have shared it otherwise, I thought it was just recapping it.

 

[Einherjar86]

Their take is that it was politically motivated, which (again to be fair) is probably the more historically plausible and supportable position. Harris is reaching by attributing a moral impetus (without the quote, that argument kinda falls apart; you need autobiographical materials at that point, or at least primary sources from those close to Lincoln). But ultimately, both are interpretations of the rationale behind historical events.

 

[CiG]

Especially because congress was not in session which means, correct me if I'm wrong, motivation is irrelevant because he had no choice but to wait right?