The pics thread

[Orion Crystal Ice]

I meant to have it come across more like, don't do it for a solution either, to people who usually don't even understand, etc. I'm getting the impression you're not believing me here. I know you can't just stop worrying...that's *why* I don't like the idea of a compromise. Us introverts are fine how we are as far as I'm concerned. Usually my beef with things comes down to the base ideas of alter who you are to fit in, and something is wrong with you and the masses need to fix you, and why don't you do this this and that way, and I just have a huge problem with all that and with anything that has the appearance of it. Re: 'the thing to do', a vast majority of people who start do in fact do it for that very reason and that goes back to the points I just made. Principles..when applied..

 

[zabu of nΩd]

Yeah I don't have a problem with anything you just posted, but obviously drinking isn't all about following the masses, and there can be benefits to trying to change yourself if the way you naturally are is preventing you from living a life you'd prefer to live.

I certainly don't attribute any degree of "sacredness" to my introversion - and I'm fine with changing myself on occasion if it's enjoyable and it improves my social life, because I value those things too.

 

[Orion Crystal Ice]

I'm not sure what light I view mine in. I suppose I could say I want to be different to some extent, yet at the same time most of what I see which is different, I highly dislike and tend to not want anything to do with. I think I'm technically pretty content with how I am, the down side is just the more pushy or ignorant extrovert people like Dak mentioned, but everything has a down side somewhere so I don't want to sound much like I'm complaining either...


As long as you're not being false/overly compromising, and chemical drugs whether it be alcohol or pills have a hand in it, it's not something I personally have as much of a problem with.. overall I really don't like anything that is psychoactive at all, but I'm fully aware there are different levels of use and don't necessarily see alcohol itself as always having to be bad. It's just an extremely complex issue.

 

[Krigloch the Furious]

god damn. the lack of pictures in this thread is just fucking stupid.

 

[zabu of nΩd]

god damn. the lack of pictures in this thread is just fucking stupid.

You'd know all about stupid, wouldn't you.


edit: luv your kitties

 

[False Joe]

wtf is this shit?
Drinking is fun because it's fun. If I want to get drunk, I will. It takes you to a cool place.

 

[zabu of nΩd]

It takes you to a cool place.

The toilet?

 

[False Joe]

thats the morning after.
hangover shits ftl >.>

 

[Orion Crystal Ice]

 

[Belligerent]

wtf is this shit?
Drinking is fun because it's fun. If I want to get drunk, I will. It takes you to a cool place.

Afuckinggreed.
I don't even want to comment on the last few ridiculous pages i just skimmed through.
Basically...without booze my weekends(and random weeknights) would be directionless and full of faggotry.
Booze helps the following:
speaking your mind
having hilarious and often disgusting conversations with friends
beer balls
makes metal sound even awesomer
and a random floozie at the bar who you bring home but the next morning cannot remember her name or what she looks like but she left behind her soiled panties

 

[zabu of nΩd]

thats the morning after.
hangover shits ftl >.>

I was thinking more in terms of vomiting, but I guess that counts too.

 

[cookiecutter]

It's still a major reason why alcohol is abused by youths. If we raised our children, as they do in Europe, with alcohol as a legal and casual part of a meal, they will naturally respect it in adolescence.

I generally agree, but I think you may be overstating how different Europe is, especially if you count the English. I've read articles talking about how drunken English people completely trash vacation spots throughout Europe.

I don't see why introversion should be considered a psychological problem, unless it is to the extreme (ie: causing panic attacks, etc.)

Our current society has glamourized extreme extroverts and labeled the quiet ones as "wierd", when it has been my experience that most of the extreme extroverts are riding on the edge of emotional collapse all the time and choose that lifestyle/personality to cover up a lack of personal depth.

I have also found this. I am an introvert but I (or rather my house) hosts many parties and usually the big extroverts end up crying or something because of bullshit drama that introverts tend to avoid.

I meant to have it come across more like, don't do it for a solution either, to people who usually don't even understand, etc. I'm getting the impression you're not believing me here. I know you can't just stop worrying...that's *why* I don't like the idea of a compromise. Us introverts are fine how we are as far as I'm concerned. Usually my beef with things comes down to the base ideas of alter who you are to fit in, and something is wrong with you and the masses need to fix you, and why don't you do this this and that way, and I just have a huge problem with all that and with anything that has the appearance of it. Re: 'the thing to do', a vast majority of people who start do in fact do it for that very reason and that goes back to the points I just made. Principles..when applied..

I think you are misunderstanding things. Being introverted doesn't mean that you dislike social activities, it just means you lose energy from them rather than gain energy. People don't drink alcohol to fit in, but rather to make an otherwise draining experience a little easier and more fun. I'm a pretty quiet and introverted guy, but I also like hanging out with people. Alcohol has enjoyable effects and also helps me to do that. I don't give a shit about it being "the thing to do".

 

[Orion Crystal Ice]

I think you are misunderstanding things. Being introverted doesn't mean that you dislike social activities, it just means you lose energy from them rather than gain energy. People don't drink alcohol to fit in, but rather to make an otherwise draining experience a little easier and more fun. I'm a pretty quiet and introverted guy, but I also like hanging out with people. Alcohol has enjoyable effects and also helps me to do that. I don't give a shit about it being "the thing to do".

I've been this way my whole life since I can remember, even lost a job or two over it, and I'm very sure of what it means, and I didn't say 'this means this/that'.

Also, you saying "people..." is more of a generalization than I have made. I have been extremely specific about what I've talked about..... it would be nice if people took a minute to say, OH, this doesn't apply to me, so I won't worry about it...if it doesn't. Instead there's a bunch of kneejerk reactions which IMO tends to tell me a lot more about the mindset going around, and it's disappointing to see.

 

[cookiecutter]

That would be all well and good, but you initially directed your criticism at people on this board most notably Valerie. It's pretty reasonable for us to not want be called "weak" or basically called sheep. Now that we've proven you wrong you can't get away with saying "oh I wasn't talking about you"

 

[Orion Crystal Ice]

No, she didn't make sense from the get go because she said she was upset over something I said but then it turned out what I said didn't even pertain to her interests or what she had in mind so that's ridiculous. You can look at anything I said at all and clearly say what it says and what it doesn't say. I have always referenced a certain majority rather than just saying "everyone who drinks at all thinks this and does that", maybe you're used to that and would just LOVE to hang anyone who hits that topic up on that pole, but sorry, take that elsewhere. And trust me here, if I wanna call you a sheep or weak, or anything else for that matter, I'm gonna call you it, direct, blunt. You're kneejerking just like a few others and it's interesting to me what a 'sweet spot' this seems to be.

 

[cookiecutter]

This could result from your writing being incredibly difficult for me to understand. It's like you're writing in code or something. I have to really concentrate to even read one of your posts.

 

[skeptik]

Coming from an avid nondrinker, a good deal of your posts or portions of your posts either pretty clearly slipped from the scope of your (already stretched) generalization or were unclear enough as to allow confusion as to what exactly you were referring to, and you overall came off mostly likely a douchebag, despite the fact that I agree with you.

 

[Orion Crystal Ice]

Here is the VERY FIRST THING I said on the subject:

I am in the same boat and am tired of seeing and putting up with shit from people because of it, and not being able to find decent friends or girls who aren't in the crowd mentality in that context. And I think if you do something that alters you, like drink, for the sake of 'being social' in any way, you're weak.

I didn't think it was too hard to grasp. From the getgo, things have been IN THAT CONTEXT, rooted in that context, clearly - go ahead and follow the posts if you want -, and the reason it's an ISSUE is because it's way more widespread than the OTHER people who drink. I did not ever say 'if you drink at all', 'if you just enjoy it' or whatever else seems to be the consensus, yet people have cried a freaking ocean about it. I've continuously talked about being a drunken sheep or doing it because it's just "the tradition" because I think those things are weak and lead to other weak things and I don't care what anyone thinks of that. I'd love someone to find somewhere something I said that explicitly contradicts all of the above. If it ain't you being called on, why raise your hand? GOSH. x_x I'm going to bed, this is stupid and pointless and someone else will still come along with OMGZ U JUDGN PEEPLZ WHO DRINKS FUKK U MANG just to stir the shit some more.

 

[skeptik]

...yeah.

"Being social," especially "'being social' in any way" is a painfully ambiguous remark and can apply to the majority of posters who commented after you about the way that they use alcohol on occasion. Don't blame people for criticizing you for things you didn't say when you actually wound up saying them without realizing it.

Furthermore, you don't have to be directly attacked in order to be offended by what somebody says. The idea that, for example, Valerie can't take offense to what you said based on the evidence that it doesn't describe her is ridiculous.

 

[Orion Crystal Ice]

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I don't think it's ambiguous at all. It's not rocket science. I'm pretty sure everybody knows what it means. I think a lot of people just want to be offended and lash out at supposedly being judged or whatever, because all they see is just this general conversation, assume the antagonist is saying one thing, and hop on it.

If she's offended at the very very specific thing I said and have outlined, great, I don't care, I think I'm right. But it's confusing and frustrating when she more makes it out to be the case of, 'I'm offended because I think you're bashing people who drink overall', which is just what it looked like, that's how I saw it, that's how I'm calling it, just how you're calling this in your certain way.

Let me take this personality test thing and get off here, no matter what I say someone is gonna find fault with it because I must completely absolutely be teh horriblz judgmental dood and ya'll need awards or something for weeding me out.