The problem with Tool
- Thread starter Cryptophile
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Reverend Bizarre
Doomed!
Divine_intent said:
^^^^^ By far the dumbest and off-topic reply i've seen in this (already stupid) debate.
"When i see your post im damn ashamed of being a cryptopsy fan." - so you're saying you're ashamed of being a fan of a band because of someone else? paaaathetic.
Benzine
.flaps
Before i voice my opinion on Tool, i'll say i quite like them. Some Tool songs i really like such as Sober, 46 & 2 and Eulogy but most of their stuff doesn't interest me because i find it dull (not it is dull, i find it dull). Tools songwriting ability is very good, but to say their drummer is amazing...i can't understand it in any way. Jazz drummers such as Buddy Rich are far superior and mike portnoy is a personal favourite for progressive music. As for guitars and vocals again there are so many more far talented people out there. Most of tools guitars sound like something from the 1920s to me as they sound twangy like George Forman singing 'I like cleanin' windows' and Maynard just sounds Irish when he sings. And do they purposly record their stuff badly? Their music just seems poorly produced to me.
All said and done i think Tool make some good songs with good atmousphere but all the Tool fans i know in real life just go on and on about them SO much and they are so protective about them it drives me insane. If someone tells me a band i like are rubbish i couldn't care less but the Tool fans i know go mental when i hear people telling them how they don't like them
All said and done i think Tool make some good songs with good atmousphere but all the Tool fans i know in real life just go on and on about them SO much and they are so protective about them it drives me insane. If someone tells me a band i like are rubbish i couldn't care less but the Tool fans i know go mental when i hear people telling them how they don't like them
Iblys
www.lucidfalls.com
Benzine
You like 46 & 2 and you can't understand why people think their drummer is incredibly talented. What about the drum solo in that? Have you heard ANY of Lateralus?
You like 46 & 2 and you can't understand why people think their drummer is incredibly talented. What about the drum solo in that? Have you heard ANY of Lateralus?
Slipknot_isn't_metal what a smart nickname you have Reverend Bizarre.
I bet it took years for you to make that out.
I bet it took years for you to make that out.
Schism
Evacuate, Assemble here..
Benzine said:
I think you need a HiFi upgrade dude!!
Lateralus is the best produced album I have ever heard, David Bottiril perfection!!
Benzine
.flaps
Reverend Bizarre
Doomed!
Divine_intent said:
No, not really, i just ripped it off from one of my favorite bands.(the Reverend Bizarre name that is). And if you're reffering to my previous username, well it had a little bit to do with alcohol, a lack of imagination and of course a bunch of people calling SK metal ...nothing special at all, I never considered them metal.
Nice attempt at flaming, however you may want to hand that over to someone who can actually do it.
Nice attempt trying to look cool.Better hand it over to someone who actually are.Cause your a jerk.
Don Corleone
Emre
Schism
Evacuate, Assemble here..
Reverend Bizarre
Doomed!
anonymousnick2001
World's Greatest Vocalist
Riiiight...
Back to the music. I could never get into Tool, because I found it boring. The music, and not because it is boring, but because I found it boring. I've always liked Prison Sex(the song, people) and Parabola and Schism both had memorable moments.
I do find the band overrated. Danny Carey is really the only all-star musician in the band. Maynard only recently proved he could sing, and the gitarist and drummer are marginally talented, enough to make for an occasionally interesting riff or something. The first bassist was better.
I think Ænima is an overrated sludgefest. The humor isn't funny, and the singing is horrible, the lyrics do suck(yes, Jimmy included) and there is a lot of filler. It's like Korn with Pink Floyd mindsets, so no wonder kids think they're God. The album is really just something people use to attempt a pseudo-intellectual image.
The band has talent, in crafting excellent prog-rock, but they have done so little that is truly groundbreaking(except their videos, sweet!).
Lateralus has good production, and Undertow is decent because Disgustipated is actually funny, Prison sEx and Sober aren't bad, and the band doesn't sound like their falling asleep.
Opeth are much more favorable in my book. Sorry, Tool fans.
Back to the music. I could never get into Tool, because I found it boring. The music, and not because it is boring, but because I found it boring. I've always liked Prison Sex(the song, people) and Parabola and Schism both had memorable moments.
I do find the band overrated. Danny Carey is really the only all-star musician in the band. Maynard only recently proved he could sing, and the gitarist and drummer are marginally talented, enough to make for an occasionally interesting riff or something. The first bassist was better.
I think Ænima is an overrated sludgefest. The humor isn't funny, and the singing is horrible, the lyrics do suck(yes, Jimmy included) and there is a lot of filler. It's like Korn with Pink Floyd mindsets, so no wonder kids think they're God. The album is really just something people use to attempt a pseudo-intellectual image.
The band has talent, in crafting excellent prog-rock, but they have done so little that is truly groundbreaking(except their videos, sweet!).
Lateralus has good production, and Undertow is decent because Disgustipated is actually funny, Prison sEx and Sober aren't bad, and the band doesn't sound like their falling asleep.
Opeth are much more favorable in my book. Sorry, Tool fans.
Aecliptica
NOT FRANCOIS
cryptophile, you are a fuckin jackass, know how to compare music and them come back to this board. fuckin fan boy. i hope you die in a bath of vile acid u fuck.
Smitty
Prick
I don't really want to comment on the band itself... the most i'll say is that i have to be in a mood in order to listen to them... a very, very, VERY patient mood...
Anywho, it is my personal opinion that Tool has the single most fucking annoying, pathetic fan base of any band. I mean, HOLY SHIT. Fuck, i'de shoot myself if my fans were anything like Tool's..
Anywho, it is my personal opinion that Tool has the single most fucking annoying, pathetic fan base of any band. I mean, HOLY SHIT. Fuck, i'de shoot myself if my fans were anything like Tool's..
Cryptophile said:
Actually, you have to be open-minded and not pre-judgemental. The song is about being called a sellout. Get it? Selling yourself out? Hooker with a penis? Sheesh.
Tool is very tongue-in-cheek. The sarcasm flew right over your head. They don't take things as seriously as you do.
Does it matter?
LOL Tool *does* have a VERY annoying elitist fanbase and that probably does turn a lot of people off to Tool. Hell, I am a Tool fanboy -- they're my favorite band. But that doesn't stop me from liking other music. As I can see there are a lot of Tool fans that like Opeth too.
But the fanbase is what differs. The Tool message board I visit has a lot more assholes than this board. The Opeth fanbase is a lot more mature than the Tool fanbase (obviously because of the popularity).
Anyway about the music, it's an either love it or hate it thing. If you're patient, you love it. If you aren't, then you don't. Also you have to get into it, like understand the lyrics and the story behind it. Plus their enigmatic image makes the band a lot more intersting IMO.
Tool does not suck. You simply cannot say that. They may not sound good to you, but you gotta respect their talent. Same goes for Opeth. At first I HATED the death vox. But I respected the guitarwork, and eventually I gave the vox a chance and now I love those parts over the mellow parts.
But the fanbase is what differs. The Tool message board I visit has a lot more assholes than this board. The Opeth fanbase is a lot more mature than the Tool fanbase (obviously because of the popularity).
Anyway about the music, it's an either love it or hate it thing. If you're patient, you love it. If you aren't, then you don't. Also you have to get into it, like understand the lyrics and the story behind it. Plus their enigmatic image makes the band a lot more intersting IMO.
Tool does not suck. You simply cannot say that. They may not sound good to you, but you gotta respect their talent. Same goes for Opeth. At first I HATED the death vox. But I respected the guitarwork, and eventually I gave the vox a chance and now I love those parts over the mellow parts.
calx
New Metal Member
OPINION
A very important word in this and all other similar discussions. In fact I think it maybe the answer.
A very important word in this and all other similar discussions. In fact I think it maybe the answer.
AndICried
Pretentious asshole
Just my random/useless input to this thread:
Every musician in Tool has a very unique, important part in the overall sound of Tool's music. I think the best Tool song to demonstrate each members importance is "The Patient".
Every musician in Tool has a very unique, important part in the overall sound of Tool's music. I think the best Tool song to demonstrate each members importance is "The Patient".
i just gotta point that if you havent seen Martin play Deliverance live you dont know what you're talking about. I sat there mesmorised seeing this guy play deliverance material. perhaps deliverance is a bit of exception as it stands out more (as far as drums go) but just after seeing that bit i would never say Martin's not creative enough.YaYo said:
sf
