Base Delta Zero said:
I've tried playing with my hands un-crossed but I have a hell of a time with the crash. I can handle the hi-hat alright but I just can't nail the crash with my left hand yet. If I (eventually) get good enough, I might want to step out of my 'comfort zone' but until then, I'm pretty much stuck playing cross-handed (which I don't mind for now).
Well, if you can deal with crossed hands pretty good - keep on. And really - when you'll be skilled enough you can develope your abilities and your weak points with using to play uncrossed way. But I dunno if thats necessary, as most of best drummers play crossed, if I'm not wrong.
DuxTer said:
I want to try it out sometime. I really think it would add to my playing, but money doesn't grow on me so to say. =P .. And I have a few other things that I'd like to have before a double pedal, for now I can manage without. I have an electric kit now though, where I can play double pedal with the hihat. But still feels weird just because it's an hihat pedal. =\
Oh, yes it definitely would add drive to your playing =))) And is double pedal (cardan) expansive there? I'm about to get my own, but still have no idea how much it costs. And by the way - electronic kit. Is it good? Does worths buying? I saw a few cool examples, but ppl say that its better to get a real drum set =Р
DHD said:
the trick is to practice singles with the left hand. Make sure that the motion is straight up and down from the wrist. This is the only real way to get the left hand to respond like the right.
Remember this: YOU ARE ONLY AS FAST AS YOUR WEAKEST HAND!
If your right hand is faster and you are playing your fastest, then the left hand is either out of time/dragging against the tempo or is actually slowing down your playing speed without you realising it!
Playing Heavy Metal drums without either a double pedal or a 2 bass drums set-up is like trying to have sex without a hardon!!!!
Peace,
DHD
Yes, I practice singles with my left hand really much now. I play ride-beat a lot. With my left hand on hi-hat and triplets on snare and a lil of bassdrum. Thats usual exercise for me. And as ride-beat is kinda standarted part I mix it with snare and bassdrum, creating polyrythmic (I just fucking love it!) by Jim Chapin school. And you know what else my teacher says? - he told me that I shouldnt try to make my hands equal by they power and abilities. I still have to ask why though...
YOU ARE ONLY AS FAST AS YOUR WEAKEST HAND! this is great true words, thank you.
Hehe, yea, I agree about second pedal in bassdrum in Heavy Metal.
Last year I was on Apocalyptica concert and there was a drummer Mikko Siren with them. He is sooooo damn fast, I forgot about Apocalyptica, I was looking only at him... and hell, I've never seen a human playing like that... It seemed that he's insect, not human - so hyper. There was a LOT of bass really. And he has only 1 pedal on bassdrum. The point was that he had 2 bass toms.
Metal is Religion said:
i dont think it matters, im not a drummer, but ive noticed Gene Hogland doesnt cross over, but some really fast drummers do. check this out, i just saw it and i thought this would be an appropriate place to post it.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=678114905&n=2
Yea, some really fast drummers, and the best drummers I know play with their hands crossed. Thats why I worried. And thank you for the site adress. Its really cool =)
PDantesco said:
It does not matter the way you play, as long as you are comfortable with it and you can achieve your task. Keep in mind that whatever you are planning to do, just start as slow as you can so you can watch for every detail of your movement, learn how to control every step of the exercise and ''program'' the right set of muscles to do the job right. So, when you eventually need your body to respond to certain moves while playing, the right muscles will respond easily . You also, doing so, will develop independence, very necessary for more complexes exercises or performance.
Good luck and keep on hearing your teacher. And enjoy practice!!!
Well, to be honest I have to break my inner system and start to learn all over. Its easy to study some new things like that, but difficult to relearn myself to play uncrossed that stuff that i used to play with crossed hands. But again - its untill I'm not that good. I'm sure later it will be not a big deal for me. You are totally right about the point that I have to start very slow. Its really lets to see mistakes and control myself better.
Thank you very much =)
Amarantus said:
Once you get good enough it won't matter. You will be able to keep your counts with either hand, and still play just fine. Takes a while though.
Yea, I hope so.
I really hate counting. I'm sure that I can deal without counting too, but it comes out necessary on my stage.
Thank you