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1998 (Touring Reload so it's not like they were working hard on stage the night before
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I think it did nothing of the sort. It proved John could sing the songs, but it didn't prove he could sing them like Joey. In many ways I think his live effort was better than the studio recorded efforts. But the pressure on JB, whether he realised it or not, must have been a big part of how that album turned out. It was a stupid thing to do if that was the reason and considering it was the last album JB did before Joey came back it was even more ridiculous.
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1998 (Touring Reload so it's not like they were working hard on stage the night before
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Actually they did two albums, but I don't have them so I didn't realise it.
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No I think it was to prove that their music sounded better with Bush. Like Hey, see? isn't it better? Yeah Scott especially comes off as a hollow money grubber. Very soon after that album and going on tv and talking shit about Joey and being so sure Bush was the guy they did the Big4 shows made a bunch of money and then it was Joey is the man!
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Oh well I don't think it proved that either. The music itself didn't sound any better, but John's vocals on songs like NFL really didn't improve anything. If anything that song sounds slower and the vocals sound weaker, which is a pity because John is so much better than songs like that. I do remember the flip flop comments about John and Joey and it's one of the things I really don't like about Scott.
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Oh that is interesting that it had the opposite effect of what they wanted lol. They could have gotten anyone and I think the result would be the same. Joey gave them something different and special. He has a unique way of singing Scott's offbeat lyrics. You can't just change that and say it's better than what put them in the top field.
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Actually one was a compilation so it probably wasn't worth touring. The other one I don't know about a tour but given that it was in 2000 and Anthrax didn't release anything between 98 and 03 there is a good chance he did some shows.
Interestingly I was just reading his wiki and apparently in 2015 it was made public that both he and Dan Spitz were fighting Anthrax for royalties. He did suggest it was resolved when Anthrax got a new accounting company, but still not the sort of publicity any band should seek.
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The album sounds more polished and John does a good job but there is no way he is Joey and singing iconic songs like NFL, Indians, Caught In A Mosh etc asserted that. If anything they chose the wrong songs, although as John said, it really wasn't needed. Actually I think the best thing John did on that album was not try to be Joey, had he done that it would have been a real fuck up, instead doing it his way just makes the songs sound odd.
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John apparently said something very similar. It's pretty bad if they were still screwing Dan in 2015, 20 odd years after he left the band. Blaming the accountancy firm might be fair, but at the same time you have to wonder if someone in the band wasn't telling the accounts what to do. If it was a decision made by the accountants alone then it shows Scott and Co were not watching their own financial as close as they should have been. Either way seems like the band screwed it up.
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According to Mr. Google
Scott is worth about $6.1mill
Chuckles is worth about $4 mill
I would take such figures with a grain of salt but if this is to believed the band itself (assuming like most big bands it's a company structure) must be worth a bucket load!
Scott is worth about $6.1mill
Chuckles is worth about $4 mill
I would take such figures with a grain of salt but if this is to believed the band itself (assuming like most big bands it's a company structure) must be worth a bucket load!
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That could be an interesting comparison. I reckon they were probably playing to larger audiences and more headline/high billing gigs in the early part of JB's era. But that definitely tapered off by the mid 00's. I'm sure individually they make a lot more now based on the fact that they all have interests outside the band. However I can't help thinking that they could be worth a lot more if they got out of this mid-tier festival band mantra.
It's interesting to note that from the same site Kerry King is reportedly worth $8-9mill, yet James Hetfield is reportedly worth $300mill. Obviously Metallica have sold a shitload more merch, more albums, bigger gigs, bigger tours etc but it's interesting to see the massive gap between bands that all started out fairly equal 30 years ago.
It's interesting to note that from the same site Kerry King is reportedly worth $8-9mill, yet James Hetfield is reportedly worth $300mill. Obviously Metallica have sold a shitload more merch, more albums, bigger gigs, bigger tours etc but it's interesting to see the massive gap between bands that all started out fairly equal 30 years ago.
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Yeah that festival slot may pay the bills but that doesn't last forever. I don't think any band would want to be known as a festival band. That means the band is basically out of creativity or doesn't care and just wants a check.
I didn't want to bring Metallica into this lol. I guess it's unavoidable when talking about bands from the big4. but we all know how they made their dough. Last I heard James and Lars were both worth around 150 mill or 120 mill. With I think James being slightly higher.
I didn't want to bring Metallica into this lol. I guess it's unavoidable when talking about bands from the big4. but we all know how they made their dough. Last I heard James and Lars were both worth around 150 mill or 120 mill. With I think James being slightly higher.
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Yep, that about sums it up. As you said above Scott sometimes comes off as a money grabber, but he also come off as very lazy when it doesn't appear they want to play anything more than mid tier on the festival circuit, and some pretty strange festivals too.
Yeah James is still higher than the rest but I think he does more with his money, those cars he's got can't be cheap and I imagine some if not all of them increase in value with age. I think the same site claimed Lars was worth about 220-250mill with Kirk down into the 200's.
The one that really shocked me was in Nick's book. He claims that Megadeth gross anywhere from $100K-300K per gig. Sure there is a lot of people to pay in a band like Megadeth but that is a hell of a pay packet to deal with every night
Yeah James is still higher than the rest but I think he does more with his money, those cars he's got can't be cheap and I imagine some if not all of them increase in value with age. I think the same site claimed Lars was worth about 220-250mill with Kirk down into the 200's.
The one that really shocked me was in Nick's book. He claims that Megadeth gross anywhere from $100K-300K per gig. Sure there is a lot of people to pay in a band like Megadeth but that is a hell of a pay packet to deal with every night
