The what's going on in Thrash thread

[Slammed]

That would be great. He'd get Whiplash! from angrily looking back.

Yeah I know what it is I don't like about it. but it's to hard to explain.

I know! Grrrr.

Isn't it mean that we are picking on Dave while he goes through this hard time

I'm not sure the guy has the power in his voice to carry the music.

June 4 is the day (if I remember correctly)

 

[redfly]

If they have any hope of releasing it this year they have to keep the bass tracks. But I know where you're coming from I'm feeling less interested in the album the more this shit goes on. I tried to ignore Jnr's BS abut it sounding Prog and all that and remained hopeful for something good but now I'm getting to the stage of not caring. Having a Flotz album on the horizon is also helping that feeling.

I've spent all morning looking at new washing machines and microwave ovens and reading the reviews is like reading tabloid press about Megadeth, all the bad news they can find with very little evidence

Haha! I hate going through reviews! It's so tedious and in the end you almost have nothing more to go on then when you started.

 

[redfly]

Isn't it mean that we are picking on Dave while he goes through this hard time

I'm not sure the guy has the power in his voice to carry the music.

June 4 is the day (if I remember correctly)

Yeah I feel really bad about it. Maybe I'll prey on it. Oops I used the wrong word..or did I? .

That and I don't like the combination of his tone with the vibrato.

Getting closer!

 

[redfly]

Show of hands! Who thinks Ripper has the say in (KK's) Priest?

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/w...ired-from-megadeth-tim-ripper-owens-responds/

 

[Slammed]

Haha! I hate going through reviews! It's so tedious and in the end you almost have nothing more to go on then when you started.

the thing is that you know you can't take those reviews as gospel because 1. people BS on the net, but 2. nothing can ever be as bad as some people make out. But at the same time you need the reviews to give you something. I think the idea is to look through and ignore the really bad stuff and look for commonalities between the comments. However at the end of it all you about all you've scored is a headache

 

[Slammed]

Yeah I feel really bad about it. Maybe I'll prey on it. Oops I used the wrong word..or did I? .

That and I don't like the combination of his tone with the vibrato.

Getting closer!

Haha Dave might be hoping for another sign from god, your sign might be as good as any

I think he's the guy who started the band too so I don't see them dumping him.

Yeah it's less than 2 weeks, soon we'll be counting in days!!!

 

[Slammed]

Show of hands! Who thinks Ripper has the say in (KK's) Priest?

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/w...ired-from-megadeth-tim-ripper-owens-responds/

It would be funny if someone else in the band KK's Priest actually had more say than the guy with the KK initials.
Unless Jnr's missus has kicked him out of home I can't see Jnr moving to the UK to join a band....although it is one of the best bands in the world and when it comes to BS and controversy KK's Priest is probably on a par with that band he was previously in.

 

[Slammed]

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/d...against-person-who-leaked-very-private-video/

I'm not surprised by this, in fact if there is any surprise it's the fact that it didn't happen sooner. But that (and the dorky photo) aside what I find interesting is the comment about wishing his bandmates well on their tour. Is he in denial that they are still bandmates? Is it just a comment? Could it possibly be that he hasn't been sacked from Megadeth but rested to make it look like Megadeth was doing something proactive now only to bring him back later? Obviously there is no answer to that but it seems more fucking practical than these idiot reports who constantly inject the words grooming and underage into their articles hoping people make more of it that it's worth.

 

[redfly]

Haha Dave might be hoping for another sign from god, your sign might be as good as any

I think he's the guy who started the band too so I don't see them dumping him.

Yeah it's less than 2 weeks, soon we'll be counting in days!!!

I just got an email from the label saying my Flotsam bowser has been shipped. Which is great because last time they waited until release to send it!

 

[redfly]

It would be funny if someone else in the band KK's Priest actually had more say than the guy with the KK initials.
Unless Jnr's missus has kicked him out of home I can't see Jnr moving to the UK to join a band....although it is one of the best bands in the world and when it comes to BS and controversy KK's Priest is probably on a par with that band he was previously in.

If anyone moves from anywhere but down the street for that band they dumb.

 

[redfly]

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/d...against-person-who-leaked-very-private-video/

I'm not surprised by this, in fact if there is any surprise it's the fact that it didn't happen sooner. But that (and the dorky photo) aside what I find interesting is the comment about wishing his bandmates well on their tour. Is he in denial that they are still bandmates? Is it just a comment? Could it possibly be that he hasn't been sacked from Megadeth but rested to make it look like Megadeth was doing something proactive now only to bring him back later? Obviously there is no answer to that but it seems more fucking practical than these idiot reports who constantly inject the words grooming and underage into their articles hoping people make more of it that it's worth.

Yeah I thought that was strange too. Like you say there is no answer. However most of the commentators have once again proven themselves to have reading comprehension. They just want run with their bullshit.

 

[Slammed]

I just got an email from the label saying my Flotsam bowser has been shipped. Which is great because last time they waited until release to send it!

Hmmmm you could get it before the release date. I'm not sure I agree with that

Our stupid fucking moronic state government still haven't learnt how to contract trace covid properly and as of tonight we are in 7 day lockdown again. We are due to come out midnight on the 3rd, the album is released on the 4th. I am going to be so fucking pissed off if they extend this lock down.

Our overseas return process works so well. Man returns to South Australia from India, goes into hotel quarantine clear, tests negative on his 14th day, they send him home to Victoria where he tests positive four days later having caught it in fucking quarantine. Four days in the community and of course it has started to spread. They ask the guy where he's been for contact tracing he gives them an entire list including one shopping centre. Stupid fuckwits running contract tracing assume when he said shops in Epping and supermarket in Epping North that he just made a mistake with the supermarket and added a Supermarket in Epping, not Epping North. 2 weeks later testing traces back to the same dude and the government mistake is brought to light. Now there is something like 1400 contract traces and over 100 sites including 2 football games with over 50K people each.

And now they are opening up vaccinations to those 40-49, but they can't go out and get it without breaking fucking lockdown laws. Fuck me I'm starting to think Donald Trump didn't fuck things up as bad as our dickheads!!

 

[Slammed]

If anyone moves from anywhere but down the street for that band they dumb.

Hello Mr. Ellefson

 

[Slammed]

Yeah I thought that was strange too. Like you say there is no answer. However most of the commentators have once again proven themselves to have reading comprehension. They just want run with their bullshit.

I wonder if this turns out to be Dave jumping on today's bandwagon only to back down in a few months and invite Jnr back how it will be viewed by fans.

 

[redfly]

Hmmmm you could get it before the release date. I'm not sure I agree with that

Our stupid fucking moronic state government still haven't learnt how to contract trace covid properly and as of tonight we are in 7 day lockdown again. We are due to come out midnight on the 3rd, the album is released on the 4th. I am going to be so fucking pissed off if they extend this lock down.

Our overseas return process works so well. Man returns to South Australia from India, goes into hotel quarantine clear, tests negative on his 14th day, they send him home to Victoria where he tests positive four days later having caught it in fucking quarantine. Four days in the community and of course it has started to spread. They ask the guy where he's been for contact tracing he gives them an entire list including one shopping centre. Stupid fuckwits running contract tracing assume when he said shops in Epping and supermarket in Epping North that he just made a mistake with the supermarket and added a Supermarket in Epping, not Epping North. 2 weeks later testing traces back to the same dude and the government mistake is brought to light. Now there is something like 1400 contract traces and over 100 sites including 2 football games with over 50K people each.

And now they are opening up vaccinations to those 40-49, but they can't go out and get it without breaking fucking lockdown laws. Fuck me I'm starting to think Donald Trump didn't fuck things up as bad as our dickheads!!

Holy shit man! What a cluster fuck! I don't understand how that shit happens after over a year of doing this stuff. That's insane. I feel your pissedoffness!
Oh if he were still in charge of this. He and his whole retarded white house still be denying it and we'd probably be in worse shape then you.

 

[redfly]

I wonder if this turns out to be Dave jumping on today's bandwagon only to back down in a few months and invite Jnr back how it will be viewed by fans.

I hope so!
Here's what I'm thinking about now that relates.
Can you imagine how low morale is at the Megadeth camp?! Here's Kiko and Dirk who grew up with Megadeth and Jnr means the same to them as he does to us. He's Jnr! And all we've read over the past couple years of the album being worked on is.- Jnr has been working with Kiko in the studio, Jnr has been working with Dirk in the studio. Jnr has been working with the guys in the studio. Mustaine has never even been part of that equation. At least not from anything I've read.
Jnr is the guy that's been there.He's the guy they've played all these shows with. He's the guy that probably made them feel comfortable. The founder that isn't so serious. The guy that went out of his way for people (Mustaine rarely does that) and just plain the guy that everyone likes.
Now all of sudden the entire dynamic has changed and all they are left with is Dave. And his loyalty to people really sucks.
Not to mention the staff and crew!

 

[redfly]

Hmmmm you could get it before the release date. I'm not sure I agree with that

Fuck! Well I looked at the email again and it says it's ready and will be shipped in a few days...who does that?! What a freakin tease!

 

[redfly]

Hey I bought and sent a card to Neptune. Put your name on it too. Hope you don't mind!

 

[TempleOfBlood]

It is sad what has happened with Ellefson. I hope he lands on his feet and finds a good career and is able to mend his relationship with his wife. I've always thought he was the single best bassist in thrash metal.

Having said that:

He doesn't seem to want to take a lot of responsibility here. He put that video out there and is now seeking to sue someone (a teenager?) for releasing it. Once you put it out there, you don't have the right to control what people do with it. It's not a commercial product or intellectual property. The responsibility begins and ends with Dave himself. The lawsuit it a huge deflection. It was leaked by someone who was not ever in a relationship with him, so the idea of it being "revenge" is ludicrous. He keeps trying to deflect instead of giving a complete mea culpa, which should be his only response to this whole thing.

I've seen someone say it online before, and I think it needs to be said. Dave is "nice", but something is wrong upstairs with him. I say this not just as a result of this incident, but by many other things before. He went to seminary to become a pastor/priest but can't stop dropping f-bombs in public interviews? He curses even more than Mustaine. Not too bright, to say the least. He bought Combat Records for reasons I can't fathom, as he doesn't actually own the back catalog and isn't releasing anything on there that would make Combat fans happy anyway. None of his plans seem to make any sense.

KK's Priest doesn't want Ellefson. They have no money to pay him, and will always hire a young person who will not mind the low pay and see the association with the band as a career boost.

Ditto for Megadeth.

I'd like to see Kelly Conlon from Death/Monstrosity get the gig but I think they want a 30 year old who'll play bass with a pick and put up with whatever comes out of Mustaine's mouth.

I don't think any established band who could give Ellefson decent money can afford to hire him with this scandal and its related controversy overshadowing whatever they are trying to promote. I hope I am wrong though and he finds a good gig but if I was him I would look into a career change.

 

[TempleOfBlood]

I hope so!
Here's what I'm thinking about now that relates.
Can you imagine how low morale is at the Megadeth camp?! Here's Kiko and Dirk who grew up with Megadeth and Jnr means the same to them as he does to us. He's Jnr! And all we've read over the past couple years of the album being worked on is.- Jnr has been working with Kiko in the studio, Jnr has been working with Dirk in the studio. Jnr has been working with the guys in the studio. Mustaine has never even been part of that equation. At least not from anything I've read.
Jnr is the guy that's been there.He's the guy they've played all these shows with. He's the guy that probably made them feel comfortable. The founder that isn't so serious. The guy that went out of his way for people (Mustaine rarely does that) and just plain the guy that everyone likes.
Now all of sudden the entire dynamic has changed and all they are left with is Dave. And his loyalty to people really sucks.
Not to mention the staff and crew!

What options do Kiko and Dirk have? If they had never been in Megadeth there names would never have been uttered here. What gigs can give them more exposure and better pay at this point?

The only people Mustaine has fired that I think he was really wrong about:
Lee Rausch (Dave was a violent, drunken idiot at the time)
Jeff Young (cocaine-induced paranoia from Dave)
Chris Broderick (stupidest firing in Dave's history)
Shawn Drover (he was doing a good although not great job and gave no reason for firing, helped co-write one of the best modern Megadeth songs "Headcrusher")
MAYBE Menza but I think Menza had serious drug/alcohol problems and might've deserved to get canned