Thinking of buying some KRKs...advice?

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Yow dudes

Well since summing mixers are out of the question now until i can afford a high end 2 grand one with a decent AD/DA im thinking it would be better to invest in some better monitors.

I've had my eye on KRKs for a while. Does anyone have any experience between the Rockit and VXT range? I'm looking at the 6' model.
I use M-Audio BX5s at the moment. They're ok and im used to them but i need something with more detail in general but especially in the low end.

Rockit 6' £290 or VXT 6' £580 ? I'm thinking the VXT's will have a bigger improvement over the BX5s compared to the Rockits.

I was also thinking of upgrading to Cubase 4 though. Does anyone know if the panning law has changed since Cubase 3? Only reason I ask is for the Tesseract EP, we recorded the drums in pro tools...we've imported them into Nuendo 3 and they clip on the master (not individually). In pro tools they didn't clip the master. I'm not great with the terminology but apparently this is because pro tools is +18db (dbfs? dbu? ...(panning law, headroom stuff)....i don't know what Nuendo is but i guess 6db lower. Basically i'm having to turn it down in nuendo or turn the panning law down to -6db...which means i'm loosing resolution compared to the mix in pro tools.

Does any know if Cubase 4 matches pro tools in this area?
 
Yow dudes

Well since summing mixers are out of the question now until i can afford a high end 2 grand one with a decent AD/DA im thinking it would be better to invest in some better monitors.

I've had my eye on KRKs for a while. Does anyone have any experience between the Rockit and VXT range? I'm looking at the 6' model.
I use M-Audio BX5s at the moment. They're ok and im used to them but i need something with more detail in general but especially in the low end.

Rockit 6' £290 or VXT 6' £580 ? I'm thinking the VXT's will have a bigger improvement over the BX5s compared to the Rockits.

I was also thinking of upgrading to Cubase 4 though. Does anyone know if the panning law has changed since Cubase 3? Only reason I ask is for the Tesseract EP, we recorded the drums in pro tools...we've imported them into Nuendo 3 and they clip on the master (not individually). In pro tools they didn't clip the master. I'm not great with the terminology but apparently this is because pro tools is +18db (dbfs? dbu? ...(panning law, headroom stuff)....i don't know what Nuendo is but i guess 6db lower. Basically i'm having to turn it down in nuendo or turn the panning law down to -6db...which means i'm loosing resolution compared to the mix in pro tools.

Does any know if Cubase 4 matches pro tools in this area?

heh nice question! I was wondering the same. I've noticed the same thing when using ezdrummer on cubase 3 (drums were clipping by default).. would like to know if any of u guys can explain
 
I used both the Rokit 6's and VXT's at college.

I liked the Rokits, seemed pretty well balanced to me, the low end seemed to be a little bloated but then that could have been because they were sitting on a desk so that could have been resonating with the music.

I never liked the VXT's, thought they were quite boxy BUT I have a bit of a biased opinion with them as they were a secondary set of monitors in the main room where we mainly monitored off a £7000 pair of ATC's, so next to them anything sounded boxy.

Personally I'd really reccomend checking out the Yamaha HS series, they've been my favourite monitors to mix on (other than the ATC's) they translate to other systems REALLY well.
 
+1 to the Yamahas. Igot a pair of HS80M's recently and I'm in love with them. Used to mix on a pair oa Alesis M1 MKII Active, which are not bad at all either!
 
I know when I emailed Sweetwater (big US music gear distributor, and a lot more respectable than Musiciansfriend) asking why they didn't carry KRK, they said it was because they'd found they sounded inferior and had build quality issues compared to the other manufacturers, so they stopped stocking them. Of course, that could be a cover for some sort of business falling out, but Sweetwater also doesn't stock undeniably shitty stuff (most notably Behringer) for the same reasons, so there might be some truth to that.
 
I have some rokit '8 that I really like. The low end is colored but if you just get some auralex mopads, it will help. I would check into yamaha ns-10s or the adam a7s too.
 
I went from KRK V6 Series 2 to Adam A7 this weekend, and already my mixes translate much better! I'd definately say get the Adams.
 
Yow dudes

Well since summing mixers are out of the question now until i can afford a high end 2 grand one with a decent AD/DA im thinking it would be better to invest in some better monitors.

I've had my eye on KRKs for a while. Does anyone have any experience between the Rockit and VXT range? I'm looking at the 6' model.
I use M-Audio BX5s at the moment. They're ok and im used to them but i need something with more detail in general but especially in the low end.

Rockit 6' £290 or VXT 6' £580 ? I'm thinking the VXT's will have a bigger improvement over the BX5s compared to the Rockits.

I was also thinking of upgrading to Cubase 4 though. Does anyone know if the panning law has changed since Cubase 3? Only reason I ask is for the Tesseract EP, we recorded the drums in pro tools...we've imported them into Nuendo 3 and they clip on the master (not individually). In pro tools they didn't clip the master. I'm not great with the terminology but apparently this is because pro tools is +18db (dbfs? dbu? ...(panning law, headroom stuff)....i don't know what Nuendo is but i guess 6db lower. Basically i'm having to turn it down in nuendo or turn the panning law down to -6db...which means i'm loosing resolution compared to the mix in pro tools.

Does any know if Cubase 4 matches pro tools in this area?



as far as the summing goes you can get the dangerous bus lt its way under $2000 and it the same thing as the regular bus except it is designed for modern applications and patching. it has db24 connectors instead of xlrs. it also has a different power output or something but nothing that drastically makes a big difference. as a matter of fact they have pretty much the same components.
 
Yow dudes


I was also thinking of upgrading to Cubase 4 though. Does anyone know if the panning law has changed since Cubase 3? Only reason I ask is for the Tesseract EP, we recorded the drums in pro tools...we've imported them into Nuendo 3 and they clip on the master (not individually). In pro tools they didn't clip the master. I'm not great with the terminology but apparently this is because pro tools is +18db (dbfs? dbu? ...(panning law, headroom stuff)....i don't know what Nuendo is but i guess 6db lower. Basically i'm having to turn it down in nuendo or turn the panning law down to -6db...which means i'm loosing resolution compared to the mix in pro tools.

Does any know if Cubase 4 matches pro tools in this area?


Pro Tools (HD) has a 48bit Float master fader. That could be why. Maybe someone else could clarify, but from what i've heard it's very difficult to actually clip the master bus ITB. The meters will show clips, but it actually has more headroom. I suck at explaining it, but Digi put out white papers about it a while back. Cubase is 32 bit i think.
 
I compared the VXT's to some other monitors (genelec, mackie, yamaha), and found them to sound really harsh / boxy in the mid range. There was a lot of bass, but it wasn't very tight. I prefered the VXT 6's over the VXT 8's but ended up buying a pair of Genelec 8030A's.