KingsGene
God of Thunder
Agreed with Ken. All you youngsters should go watch Headbanger's Ball and complain about that, and let us old middle-aged farts have our thing ( Kiss, UFO, etc )....
Agreed with Ken. All you youngsters should go watch Headbanger's Ball and complain about that, and let us old middle-aged farts have our thing ( Kiss, UFO, etc )....
That wasn't the point. Us, near-30 "youngsters" don't want a show with current metal videos. We want a show that talks about metal, where the host is not an arrogant prick who thinks he knows everything. We need a host who can get his head out of his ass and leave the 80s for once.
There's more to metal than just the 80s.
And there's more to 80s metal than Quiet Riot!
While I can't stand for people to tell me I'm living in the 80's because I get on an 80's kick about once a month,I to dislike him for the most part.It's cool to see someone playing and talking about the rock he likes best,but his attitude toward anything else does suck
That wasn't the point. Us, near-30 "youngsters" don't want a show with current metal videos. We want a show that talks about metal, where the host is not an arrogant prick who thinks he knows everything. We need a host who can get his head out of his ass and leave the 80s for once.
There's more to metal than just the 80s.
If you think he's an arrogant prick, you haven't listened to enough of him. I don't detect much arrogance at all. He's just been a fan of this stuff for a long time and has some firmly entrenched positions about the bands he likes. (Not too different from many on this board.)
TheLongshot said:Sure. But there is also so much metal that you aren't going to satisfy everyone with a one hour show. Hell, XM has a metal station, but I couldn't stand most of what they played.
TheLongshot said:Really, what Trunk does is good for his end of the spectrum. What those outside of that area of hard rock and metal should be asking is not for him to broaden his range to things he really wouldn't know what he's talking about, but to be looking elsewhere for it.
If you think he's an arrogant prick, you haven't listened to enough of him. I don't detect much arrogance at all. He's just been a fan of this stuff for a long time and has some firmly entrenched positions about the bands he likes. (Not too different from many on this board.)
Sure. But there is also so much metal that you aren't going to satisfy everyone with a one hour show. Hell, XM has a metal station, but I couldn't stand most of what they played.
Really, what Trunk does is good for his end of the spectrum. What those outside of that area of hard rock and metal should be asking is not for him to broaden his range to things he really wouldn't know what he's talking about, but to be looking elsewhere for it.
From my own experience from tilting at windmills with XM for years is that the scene that we represent is always going to be a tough argument to the "classic" metal programmer and listener. The execs mostly look at our genre as classic rock nowadays. What is considered "metal" nowadays doesn't cross over much with what we listen to. There is also a certain myopia in the classic fanbase who also look at the genre in the same way, who go to concerts to hear the classics and don't even want to hear new music from classic bands that they like.
Trunk knows this as well. I remember he had the reformed BulletBoys on his show one time, and he commented that he thought their prospects probably weren't going to be very good in the climate of the record industry because of the way they would be viewed. Unless you are a big name, it was going to be very tough going, no matter what the quality. We all know that reality, that most of the bands we like are not going to be big draws, and many in the industry could care less about our bands.
Ricky was the ultimate poser. I will never forget when he got the guys from Nuclear Assault confused on who plays what and who the singer was. I think Headbangers Ball would have been better if they did not have a VJ and just had guest VJ's or just videos.
I think the reason metal has dropped off the radar is that guys like this keep on promoting bands that have run thier course and not push newer bands. Most people think metal is a dead genre which it isnt. There are so many new bands popping up all over and are very active. It is a shame that there isnt a show to promote them. While it wouldnt be a huge ratings grabber, it would be a great way for bands to get their name out there. Could you imagine if a label like Nuclear Blast was able to get airtime on a channel like Vh1 classic or even Mtv2 or 3. You could have any band on tour be getting airtime for thier tour. New CD's and vids could be promoted. About 15 years ago or so some guys used to buy Infomercial time and they did a 30 minute video show on the E! Channel on sunday nights at 3 AM. They hit lots of the fanzines out at that time promoting it. It lasted a few months and then died. But it was cool to be able to see at that time music that had zero airplay actually on tv. With 300 plus TV channels out there I am surprised someone hasnt tried something simular.
The most recent one I saw from this season had both Bill Ward and Glen Danzig on together.
Good call on pushing the RHINO RECORDS stuff.
EVERY Heaven and Hell and Sabbath re-release is pimped to the gills!!!
Yeah talk about people who screw up; not only did they not mention Glenn in Samhain (ok fine) but one of Eddie's sidekick numbnuts screwed up when talking about 'Mother'
Actually, when I was there, people actually did submit their own questions which were vetted by someone and just a couple were chosen. The people who read their questions seemed awfully nervous, which may be what you noticed.Yeah, the not mentioning SAMHAIN drove me nuts too.
What drives me most nuts about the show are the scripted questions for STUMP THE TRUNK. Half the audience members stumble over band names and band member names.
I do love the disappointment though when someone pulls out a crappy DVD, as opposed to the few who pull out an XBOX game, and then are given ROCK BAND.
Actually, when I was there, people actually did submit their own questions which were vetted by someone and just a couple were chosen. The people who read their questions seemed awfully nervous, which may be what you noticed.
Perhaps. I admit that I only saw his show a few times, but every single time at least once or twice he came across as very arrogant and as if he was the king of the truth. Maybe he's not usually that bad - I'd need to watch his show more. But every single time it seemed the same thing.
Well, then how about call his show "That 80s Metal Show?" You're right, it won't satisfy everyone, but he's only satisfying *one* demographic of metal fans.
Agreed. Still bugs the crap out of me to think that he's considered the ultimate authority in heavy metal on TV.
I take it for what it is. A show on a major cable network that discussed metal. So no matter what, it's going to be filled with the better known bands, and even moreso by the safe ones that aren't even metal (IE - AC/DC, Guns, etc).
Good call on pushing the RHINO RECORDS stuff.
EVERY Heaven and Hell and Sabbath re-release is pimped to the gills!!!