Typical Tracking Session

[Ermz]

I do that with drummers, but find that takes on guitar tend to be tighter when you take it part by part. I'll always give a full take a shot first with each guitarist, just to scope out how well they handle it. Goes without saying that 95% of the time we revert back to piecing it together.

 

[nwright]

Most of the time I have WAY less cut and pastes, but most of the bands I record can't play to a click, so cutting and pasting is usually out the window, as the tempos dont match up.

 

[Seizure.]

Ah then my screen is to small paint skills then!!

 

[462studio]

I do that with drummers, but find that takes on guitar tend to be tighter when you take it part by part. I'll always give a full take a shot first with each guitarist, just to scope out how well they handle it. Goes without saying that 95% of the time we revert back to piecing it together.

Yup, I've been doing a lot more rock/pop/punk work lately, so it's certainly far different than the stuff you have been doing too. No need to punch in multiple times for a lot of the stuff I've been doing. Tight is the enemy! lol

 

[Fifth_Horseman]

Ermin, thanks for posting that screenshot, I now feel a little better about myself/about the guitar recordings I did two years ago.

However I have since then decided not to let that happen again, the time to piece it together is better spent practicing. Sounds better in the end, too!

 

[Trevoire520]

Woah that is a lot of punches/edits! Typically I try to get each track done in one, though normally there'll be a small fuckup or two so It'll end up being 2 or 3 takes per track, just punching in from gap's in the song (e.g. a clean section or drum fill or whatever)

I never do songs section by section. Though I'm not doing death tech and other complicated stuff like some of you guys are doing, so that may be a contributing factor. I make a big deal of getting bands to practice alot ahead of schedule and normally get some rough as fuck recordings of them in the practice room or at a gig to make sure they're not completely all over the place.

 

[ze kink]

Very few compared to that. The most I have is probably when I'm recording my own stuff that I'm writing as I record, then it's usually a new take per a new part/section; what I mean is e.g. I record the guitars for a chorus as complete takes, then I'll record the verse which comes after that as complete takes. I never copy/paste anything or punch in in the middle of riffs. If I'm using pedals though, I'll always record them seperately instead of kicking them on and off as I play. Additional lead bits etc. I'll do seperately too, since they're usually too tricky to pull off in just a few takes, and recording whole riffs while nailing the tricky bits often takes too much time for me to bother, even though it's very good practice.

 

[GarethSE]

a shot of the bass and vocal edits from my latest mix.

thank your lucky stars i cant show you the vocal edits. it was literally a note by note job. got ryans reamps and accidentally saved over the older mix iteration rather than saving it as a new one. ah well.

 

[Glenn Fricker]

I try and get the whole song, and punch in as needed. Sometimes, I'll work "section by section" but that's pretty rare. I tend to push the musicians pretty hard.

 

[Nebulous]

I should have taken a screen shot of the bass for my last project. Almost a note by note edit, either for timing or length. Drums I tried to do in 4-8 bar sections, with fills being almost hit by hit.

 

[Soundlurker]

I've had worse, but I wouldn't say this the case most of the times. It really depends on the complexity of the song and on how capable the musician is. As I mentioned about a month ago I had a guy record a perfect take, which is a big thing for me since I seldom let even little mistakes or timing issues pass by me. I've had another guitar player record almost every part of the song in one take and then copy the parts so I save the band some time. Actually even with more complex stuff the audio events generally don't look as bad as your screenshot until there's some part that we either have to record a million times or to break into a million pieces, usually it's the latter.

 

[GeertSamuel]

Just curious, do you guys ever bounce the track so it's easier to overview the whole thing? I'd go mad constantly looking at my screen with so many punch in's...

 

[Ermz]

I bounce it after all the edits are done. Nuendo/Cubase seems to deal with massive amounts of edits much better than PT does. No session lag like you'd otherwise expect.

 

[Forceps]

That's why I consolidate each track and load them in a new session file. Makes it lot less distracting and I know I don't have to edit anything no more. The session data loading app in PT is very cool for loading consolidated files + FX setting, AUX sends, and so on with just 1 click.

 

[StefTD]

yeah, I do it the same way, I hate to see 10.000 little bits, one big thing is just way better.
Due to the fact that my drums are programmed, I play easy stuff on the guitar and I'm
an acceptable bass player it doesn't look that way.
But when I recorded my bands CD I had a lot of punch-ins, our lead guitar player was
really fussy (the right word?-found it in the dictionary) about the guitars, like 5 punch ins in a 15 second solo.

 

[HandsOfDespair]

I bounce it after all the edits are done. Nuendo/Cubase seems to deal with massive amounts of edits much better than PT does. No session lag like you'd otherwise expect.

I think it's the first time I see you giving a favorable opinion on cubase haha

Speaking of this, if you have lots of events like in the screenshot you posted, than you duplicate the playlist and consolidate, do the old playlist with all the events is still taking lot of cpu?

 

[Ermz]

Hey man, no bias here - only the truth!

In PT the 'background' playlist with all the unconsolidated files will still lag down the hardrive I/O processes, yeah. Not sure why.

 

[colonel kurtz]

unfucking believable! I never thought you pro guys are chopping up gtr tracks like that...drums yes, fuck, wow that is an eye opener!

i don't think he's "chopping" the track - i think he's having the guitarist do a million punch-ins because the guy sucks too much to play even 4 measures tightly enough

 

[Glenn Fricker]

In PT the 'background' playlist with all the unconsolidated files will still lag down the hardrive I/O processes, yeah. Not sure why.

Because PT's code is a bloated Turd Sandwich, I'm guessing.

 

[Ermz]

Quite possible, actually. It's the most resource-intensive out of all the DAWs I've used. I guess being the best feature, UI and workflow-wise comes at a cost.