Urban, religion inspired lyrics?

ZeiMoT

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Urban,
I've spent quite some time going through the lyrics of Undead, Matters of the Dark, and Modus Vivendi . Your lyrics seems to be quite inspired by religious issues, am I right? Talking about religion, are you Urban into some religion?
And what about the rest of the guys of Tad Morose, are they into practicing any religion?
 
Fangface said:
Like in "Sword of Retribution"?

Mmm just a wild guess, I don't remember the lyrics so well...

I don't know the lyrics very well, unfortunately. I am not a big lyric person. I guess that's good for me since I like Accept and they wrote some real stinkers lyrics wise.

bryant
 
Bryant said:
I don't know the lyrics very well, unfortunately. I am not a big lyric person. I guess that's good for me since I like Accept and they wrote some real stinkers lyrics wise.
bryant
Lyrics are 50% of the song, or thereabout.. So I really wish to understand what the lyrics are about. But I really do not mind weather the lyrics are religious or not, that is not the issue. To repeat myself, it's interesting in the knowledge perspective. I really wish to understand what the author had in mind while writing his/hers lyrics.
 
ZeiMoT said:
Lyrics are 50% of the song, or thereabout.. So I really wish to understand what the lyrics are about. But I really do not mind weather the lyrics are religious or not, that is not the issue. To repeat myself, it's interesting in the knowledge perspective. I really wish to understand what the author had in mind while writing his/hers lyrics.

Well Zeimot, I guess you are my next victim for my Vanden Plas preaching. The latest release "Beyond Daylight" is a concept album though a little loose compared to many. The lyrics range from things like the famous French poet Charles Baudelaire and his addiction to absinthe, to the Dead Sea Scrolls, and the assassination of John F. Kennedy. The lyrics are incredible on that dsc and I still haven't really figured out what all of them mean. I realized you asked this aout Tad Morose, but it looks like Urban is away for a bit so I thought I would add my two cents worth to keep this thread up.

To get back on topic.... I know "In te Shadows" has strong references to Christianity as it talks about a cross and "three" which I consider to be the holy trinity. Reading the lyrics on that song, Urban seems to have wrote that in a bit of a Dio style where the meaning is purposely ambiguous and the reader/listener can get whatever he wants from it.
I don't know that is the case, but that is what I see from it. I think it's pretty cool though I don't know the lyrics by heart. I am more into presentation and delivery than the words themselves.


Bryant
 
It definitely sounds like there's a villian in that song though, who wants the main character to join the shadows though Bryant. :)

Bryant said:
Well Zeimot, I guess you are my next victim for my Vanden Plas preaching. The latest release "Beyond Daylight" is a concept album though a little loose compared to many. The lyrics range from things like the famous French poet Charles Baudelaire and his addiction to absinthe, to the Dead Sea Scrolls, and the assassination of John F. Kennedy. The lyrics are incredible on that dsc and I still haven't really figured out what all of them mean. I realized you asked this aout Tad Morose, but it looks like Urban is away for a bit so I thought I would add my two cents worth to keep this thread up.

To get back on topic.... I know "In te Shadows" has strong references to Christianity as it talks about a cross and "three" which I consider to be the holy trinity. Reading the lyrics on that song, Urban seems to have wrote that in a bit of a Dio style where the meaning is purposely ambiguous and the reader/listener can get whatever he wants from it.
I don't know that is the case, but that is what I see from it. I think it's pretty cool though I don't know the lyrics by heart. I am more into presentation and delivery than the words themselves.


Bryant
 
Oh no!!! The Vanden Plas guy struck me, I'm soooo to the ground now!:p

I read at Urbans homepage that he has got an big interest in Acient Egypt Mythology. More or less I guess this is where he gets inspiration to some of his lyrics. (Like Anubis) Hopefully, Urban will be back in the forum soon so he can straighten out the questionmarks..


Bryant said:
Well Zeimot, I guess you are my next victim for my Vanden Plas preaching. The latest release "Beyond Daylight" is a concept album though a little loose compared to many. The lyrics range from things like the famous French poet Charles Baudelaire and his addiction to absinthe, to the Dead Sea Scrolls, and the assassination of John F. Kennedy. The lyrics are incredible on that dsc and I still haven't really figured out what all of them mean. I realized you asked this aout Tad Morose, but it looks like Urban is away for a bit so I thought I would add my two cents worth to keep this thread up.

To get back on topic.... I know "In te Shadows" has strong references to Christianity as it talks about a cross and "three" which I consider to be the holy trinity. Reading the lyrics on that song, Urban seems to have wrote that in a bit of a Dio style where the meaning is purposely ambiguous and the reader/listener can get whatever he wants from it.
I don't know that is the case, but that is what I see from it. I think it's pretty cool though I don't know the lyrics by heart. I am more into presentation and delivery than the words themselves.


Bryant
 
"Beyond Daylight" owns musically and is very good lyrically. Well, with the exception for one song. I read that it was'nt intended on being a concept album until they finished it and all the lyrics just fit together.
:OMG:

Back to Urban and his interest in egyptian mythology I can definantley see that on the Undead album, even the cover.
 
WIntersReflection said:
It definitely sounds like there's a villian in that song though, who wants the main character to join the shadows though Bryant. :)


Yep, but I haven't figured it out yet. As I have stated before, lyrics, though cool are less important to me than delivery. There are albums I have been listening to for 20 years and I sing along to, yet have no idea what the words actually are. In fact, Urban and company's cover of Accept's "Losing More Than You Have Ever Had" enlightened me to some of the lyrics because Urban is a little easier to understand than Udo.


Bryant
 
ZeiMoT said:
Oh no!!! The Vanden Plas guy struck me, I'm soooo to the ground now!:p

I promise I would never recommend a band that isn't top notch to anyone. You may not like Vanden Plas because everyone has different tastes, but if you "get" their style, you will love most of their work because they are consistant with their quality of songs and from release to realese even though they progress with each release.


Bryant
 
Bryant said:
I promise I would never recommend a band that isn't top notch to anyone. You may not like Vanden Plas because everyone has different tastes, but if you "get" their style, you will love most of their work because they are consistant with their quality of songs and from release to realese even though they progress with each release.


Bryant

Agreed.
 
Actually I think there may be a story going through those three albums, but tht could just be my obsession with rock operas, lol. Ask any of my friends, they'll tell you I'm absolutely crazy about 'em, see rock opera's everywhere ;)

Bryant said:
Yep, but I haven't figured it out yet. As I have stated before, lyrics, though cool are less important to me than delivery. There are albums I have been listening to for 20 years and I sing along to, yet have no idea what the words actually are. In fact, Urban and company's cover of Accept's "Losing More Than You Have Ever Had" enlightened me to some of the lyrics because Urban is a little easier to understand than Udo.


Bryant
 
Now that Urban seems to be back here, maybe he can answer the question that booted up (geekword?) this thread?
 
ZeiMoT said:
Oh no!!! The Vanden Plas guy struck me, I'm soooo to the ground now!:p

I read at Urbans homepage that he has got an big interest in Acient Egypt Mythology. More or less I guess this is where he gets inspiration to some of his lyrics. (Like Anubis) Hopefully, Urban will be back in the forum soon so he can straighten out the questionmarks..

Ha ha ha. Something about VP and TM go together though they sound very different.

As far as Urban.... I would be interested in that as well.


Bryant
 
Yes, I find religion rather interesting. No matter how you look at it there's no way getting around the fact that we all choose to believe in something. We simply have to. Be it subconsciously or otherwise. As to if the rest of the guys subscribe to a particular point of view, well, it's not possible for me to tell, I'm not sure I know and even if I did know I'm not sure they want me to tell you. Myself? I shan't tell you. If you absolutely have to know then I wouldn't tell you even if you were to be my best friend. Anyway, can't tell you everything, now, can I?
 
Urban breed said:
Yes, I find religion rather interesting. No matter how you look at it there's no way getting around the fact that we all choose to believe in something. We simply have to. Be it subconsciously or otherwise.
I partly agree with you, or rather, it depends on what you mean by "we all choose to believe" in something. I look at it like this: If I was raised to believe in a specific belief system, then I wouldn't have had any real chance to make my own choice would I. Additionally, some people do not believe in anything.
One might to some extent call that to choose to believe in not to believe:err: , to make it insanely absurd, well, my point of view. :loco:
Apart from that, I agree with you.

Urban breed said:
As to if the rest of the guys subscribe to a particular point of view, well, it's not possible for me to tell, I'm not sure I know and even if I did know I'm not sure they want me to tell you.
Integrity! I admire that!

Urban breed said:
Myself? I shan't tell you. If you absolutely have to know then I wouldn't tell you even if you were to be my best friend. Anyway, can't tell you everything, now, can I?
Yeah, leave us here in the dark, in mistery, without knowledge :heh:
But honestly, I really respect that attitude of yours.
 
Well ZeiMoT sometimes people do switch religions, one of my best friends changed to a different religion then his family. It is more usual to stick with what you were raised with though. :)

ZeiMoT said:
I partly agree with you, or rather, it depends on what you mean by "we all choose to believe" in something. I look at it like this: If I was raised to believe in a specific belief system, then I wouldn't have had any real chance to make my own choice would I. Additionally, some people do not believe in anything.
One might to some extent call that to choose to believe in not to believe:err: , to make it insanely absurd, well, my point of view. :loco:
Apart from that, I agree with you.


Integrity! I admire that!


Yeah, leave us here in the dark, in mistery, without knowledge :heh:
But honestly, I really respect that attitude of yours.
 
ZeiMoT said:
I partly agree with you, or rather, it depends on what you mean by "we all choose to believe in something". I look at it like this: If I was raised to believe in a specific belief system, then I wouldn't have had any real chance to make my own choice would I. Additionally, some people do not believe in anything.
One might to some extent call that to choose to believe in not to believe:err: , to make it insanely absurd, well, my point of view. :loco:
Apart from that, I agree with you.
I think your opinion is similar as Urban's, since that "subconscious choice" he mentionned can also relate to the fact that some people don't really have the choice in their beliefs like you said. It's not a real proper choice because of the exagerated influence of the context, but it's still a choice.

But it could be that I misunderstood one or both of you, my language flaws strike again :hypno:
 
Urban breed said:
Yes, I find religion rather interesting. No matter how you look at it there's no way getting around the fact that we all choose to believe in something. We simply have to. Be it subconsciously or otherwise. As to if the rest of the guys subscribe to a particular point of view, well, it's not possible for me to tell, I'm not sure I know and even if I did know I'm not sure they want me to tell you. Myself? I shan't tell you. If you absolutely have to know then I wouldn't tell you even if you were to be my best friend. Anyway, can't tell you everything, now, can I?

I don't subscribe to any particular religion though I grew up with a Holiness (Assembly of God, Christian) grandmother and she helped raise me. As an adult, I don't attend church, read the bible nor even consider myself a Christian, but I am a "spiritual" person and I find it much harder for me to believe in "nothing" than not to believe in a higher power. I also believe that while organized religions and Christian religions in particular (as that is the one I am most familiar with) have teachings of certain values, I consider some to be positive and some to be negative. I do embrace some of the values I was taught and ignore some of the others. There are no rules to my beliefs as they are mine and mine alone.
Our closest relatives in the animal kingdon, the great apes, like the chimpanzee, breaks sticks off and uses them to dig around in tree stumps to dig for ants to eat. That is about as technical as they get. Monkeys don't drive cars, fly planes, build skyscrapers, play guitars or surf the net..... only people do.
The way I see it, there is either there is a "God" (or gods) or there was some aliens that dropped us off here because the human beings "self awareness" or "soul" if you will is unique to only our species and I personally think that it is a divine gift. I don't "worship" that God or whatever it is, but I know it exists and I am thankful that I was born such an intelligent creature (of course that depends on who you ask :loco:) I bet it sucks to be a reovirus (for example.) I am sure they aren't Tad Morose fans. They have no ears.


Bryant