Varg Vikerness Political Prisoner

The Greys said:
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

not everyone who commits a crime is a jeffrey dahmer or ed gein. Regular people that never have thought about killing have killed also.



Thanks for getting to your point so quickly.
 
I believe there isn't any bad (or evil) in Varg at all. I recommend taking the time to read through www.burzum.org. There are a lot of fascinating articles to read there and you'll get a much better idea of the man.

Anyone who has such bold opinions about the man without any common-sense reason to back them up is ignorant towards Varg, his music and his situation.
 
The Greys said:
Not everyone who does something that is considered bad is a stoic individual or a deranged pyschopath that wants to keep doing the same bad thing. There is a difference between someone being put into a situation where killing someone seems like an easy way out to benifitt them or keep them out of trouble than someone who just enjoys killing people because they get pleasure or whatever. Regardless both have to be put in jail for the crime they committed because that's fair. A person can be put into a situation where they actually think killing someone would be the best way to resolve conflict. We live in a materalistic world so that person is influenced so it's not excatly just their fault. The world is greed control power. We are forced to believe the more money we have or the more math we know the better and more smart we are. The more money someone makes they will be looked at over someone who makes less. If someone could end up loosing a lot of money they could kill over it to keep it. In this world we are told money is really important for example. This causes people to murder also and is one of the few things.

not everyone who commits a crime is a jeffrey dahmer or ed gein. Regular people that never have thought about killing have killed also.

Greys;

1) Unless in a war, self-defence or law enforcement, killing someone is rarely the best way to resolve conflict. Someone who thinks it is has probably got a really big Chuck Norris VHS collection.

2) Your posts increasingly work along the lines of "Damn intellectuals earning more than me! I'm an honest Joe and the state robs me of taxes! Why should better educated people earn more than me?". Congrats, you live in the U.S. Unlike, say, Afghanistan, you have the oppurtunity to go back to school and get a better paid job. Jobs aren't paid fairly by and large; that's just part of the current society we live in. There ARE more important things than money in life, I agree, but to constantly remind people how poor / put upon you are as a manual labourer, and how unfair the system is because the damn academics who know more math than you earn more kind of contradicts your point.

You're clearly not an utter dullard. Why not go back to school? That way you can get a better paid job and not have to rage against the system. You have, after all, the opprtunity to do so.

If the point you were making was: normal people commit murder, you are bang on correct. However, most of them don't proceed to ramble incoherent Odinist bollocks providing self justification.
 
What in the world would make you give a serious response to a rant by The Greys? Futility...utter futility.
 
go ahead and agree with what you believe in...but if your going to run around burning down churches wasting lots of time and money spent then you deserve to rot in a fucking cage for the rest of your life...on top of killing someone you dont deserve to live

there is some great music within black metal, but the beliefs and actions taken are just down right retarded and not called for
 
TylerTheNuke said:
I find vargs viewpoints to be very interesting. There is no way varg is a retard as so many of you people repeat. He is probably smarter then 90% of the people here. Sure, he burned down churches, which was wrong because they are historical artifacts and should be preserved, but does being in contradiction to your beliefs make him stupid? Open your mind and lower your egos, and stop saying the same thing like sheep. The only reason so many people are in complete 100% agreement with each other is because they aren't thinking for themselves. I hardly ever agree completly with anyone. Vargs a criminal, but if you look beyond the stereotype you'll actually see that he's a great guy. Look at some of his readings, or whatever else. Look at his music. retards don't produce music like that, sorry.

I dont exactly think he's an idiot but he's not the smartest criminal either because if he was he probably would've had less accomplices.
 
Varg has some interesting if sometimes inconsistent ideas...what I cannot abide is that infernal shrieking! Though musically sound, that vocal style renders Burzum almost unlistenable to me. It's a wonder someone didn't stab him first back then...
 
Spectacular Views said:
"think for yourself......question authority....." - maynard james kenenan aka GOD
Maynard James Keenan aka fucking gay dweeb poser who used to live in an apartment filled with birds and birdshit, shoot up chunk, and get his assed whipped on a daily basis back in Washington (state). Just looking at the artfag he's trying so fucking hard to be now is simply comical...
 
VadimVon said:
Maynard James Keenan aka fucking gay dweeb poser who used to live in an apartment filled with birds and birdshit, shoot up chunk, and get his assed whipped on a daily basis back in Washington (state). Just looking at the artfag he's trying so fucking hard to be now is simply comical...

it was satire you fucking retard
 
Ex-cally-boo said:
Why is it so wrong to be an artfag?
Its not. I myself am an artfag, in a rather deplored way... But have you seen any interview with that dude?
 
As a non-Varg side bar...seldom has the term "retarded" and all its attendant derivatives been used so frequently in a single thread. Just an observation...
 
byrne said:
:erk:x6 million.

if you think burning down churches is a good thing, you are a blatant fucking idiot. the amount of charity/social service work churches do is phenomenal. religion is often a crucial part of peoples lives when they dont have much else (aesthetically or whatever it may be) and also, it is a place of reform for a lot of people who would otherwise be a complete burden on society (e.g. idiots who burn down churches).

also churches are not tax havens for the rich, you idiot. i would be naieve to think all churches are clean of cheating tax, but the vast majority would be honest, more so on average than the rest of society.

charity through organised religion has been proven to have a much higher rate of effective donation than any of the other charitable institutions you probably dont support (i assume you are tight and selfish, as well as being stupid). e.g. world vision - less than 70 cents in every dollar you donate, actually goes to the people it is intended to benefit. the st. vincent de paul society or the salvation army see more than 90 cents in the dollar going directly to the cause.


We need less charity and less coddling of the deficient. Let them go to the wall. If, as you say, Christianity is efficacious in distributing charity, it's all the more reason to oppose it. I donate nothing and never will. It would be against my ethical beliefs.