Sorry this got so long. I was trying to stay out of this thread but had to give my opinion. I just have one question. Say an Album is out of print and no matter how hard you look, and search, and try to order it, only to have it back ordered and never come, and then you know someone who has a copy, and that will copy it for you so you have a copy, is that bad? I mean come on when you are a fan of the music, you are gonna buy all the album regardless. I had a copy of I'm the man for 13 years before I finally found it. I lived in Winona, which is a small town of 25,000 in Minnesota growing up, and for the life of me I could not find it. (This was back before computers) Anyways I went to Boston in 2001 and was in a record store and there it was. Now I am sure if I had tried harder before I would have found it, but I did not have the resources. Now that I do, I am buying everything I can. Some of that stuff is used, like some of the older Video's, and the band is not making any money off of it so what difference does it make if it is used or copied. Are those video's still in print? If they are tell me where because I will buy them. I would rather have them new, then used. I guess my point is, there are times whenYou have know choice to burn. If the album is readily available, and you are a true fan you will buy it regardless. I know this thread is about theft, and yes burning is stealing. But if it is not out there why should we be punished. If I know someone with the album, I am gonna get a copy. If I can buy it, new that it is, I will otherwise I will be hapy with my burned copy, because if I buy it used,like I said before, the band is not getting any money. O.k. I think I am done.