what do you think about soad's armeniean genocide clip?
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biggsy
New Metal Member
You're full of shit. You never read Armaggedon's post nor checked out Don Corleone's links.
It was a war in which Armenians were stabbing Turks in the back, siding with the Russians. Therefore, the Ottoman Empire just acted accordingly. What should they have done?
Genocide? Don't be silly. The Ottoman Empire ruled not only the Armenians, Arabs, Greeks, Northern African countries, and pretty much any other surrouding area for like 600+ years. Genocide? Had they wanted to do it, they would have fucking erased all Armenians centuries ago.
Retard.
As for SOAD, they suck ass. Their so-called, bubble-gum lyrics are pathetic and only taken seriously by ignorant fucktards who couldn't even find Armenia on the world atlas.
Don Corleone
Emre
Indeed it was, but unfortunately, the people on this board don't seem to take well to people having "alternative" (correct) opnions, so be careful, or you'll meet the banhammer, too.
biggsy
New Metal Member
well i agree with AC but i dont think anybody on this board is qualified enough to make the statement that it's 'correct'. we would be both stupid and arrogant to assume so.
Lord Byron
My Uncle Is A Retard
Hehehe. JUst to be a whiner, Ireland should be on that list of yours. The megalithic tombs, the one in Newgrange in particular pre-date the pyramids by a few hundred years.
dishcloth
Boozehound & metalhead...
Interesting issue. Like all terrible events that have happened in the past (not taking either side here on this particular issue), we as humans unfortunately can only learn from our mistakes and do everything in our power to prevent war and genocide from occuring again.
Botfly
"I Am"
I just love how western countries educate their youth about the whole genocide thing ( Armenie, Jews) to " never forget" or that it won't happen again.
Well guess what ?
It s happening again.
Rwanda, Yougoslavia, Darfour, Tchetchenia ...
I saw a documentary with Bernard Kouchner (famous french Nato ambassador) who was at the forefront of the Rwanda crisis in 1994.
He said in that documentary (with tears in his eyes) that he knew, understood why the allies didn't stop the jewish genocide in 1943, 1944 and why the Rwanda genocide couldn't be stopped either.
He said that he had Clinton, Mitterand and all the leaders of the so called "enlightened " world on the phone who promised that they would dosomething about the Rwanda situation.
Kourchner learned later that CLinton did ZERO conference with his staff about this and just ignored it and moved on as all the other leaders.
Sad fact : if there is nothing to gain in return, nobody will move their ass ... From Kouchner attitude, he was saying also that the suffering which is far from us doesn't concern us that much in the end ... He called the major leaders " bastards" for the Rwanda tragedy even if he had a profound respect for all these leaders.
So why the descendants of all the genocides waste their time so that their suffering is recognized instead of preventing the current or oncomming ones ?
Last time I checked, the preaching on "remembering" past genocides did nothing to prevent other genocides.
It s just the competition of " My Kind Suffered more than You, pity me NOW."
Stay Hair Metal !
Well guess what ?
It s happening again.
Rwanda, Yougoslavia, Darfour, Tchetchenia ...
I saw a documentary with Bernard Kouchner (famous french Nato ambassador) who was at the forefront of the Rwanda crisis in 1994.
He said in that documentary (with tears in his eyes) that he knew, understood why the allies didn't stop the jewish genocide in 1943, 1944 and why the Rwanda genocide couldn't be stopped either.
He said that he had Clinton, Mitterand and all the leaders of the so called "enlightened " world on the phone who promised that they would dosomething about the Rwanda situation.
Kourchner learned later that CLinton did ZERO conference with his staff about this and just ignored it and moved on as all the other leaders.
Sad fact : if there is nothing to gain in return, nobody will move their ass ... From Kouchner attitude, he was saying also that the suffering which is far from us doesn't concern us that much in the end ... He called the major leaders " bastards" for the Rwanda tragedy even if he had a profound respect for all these leaders.
So why the descendants of all the genocides waste their time so that their suffering is recognized instead of preventing the current or oncomming ones ?
Last time I checked, the preaching on "remembering" past genocides did nothing to prevent other genocides.
It s just the competition of " My Kind Suffered more than You, pity me NOW."
Stay Hair Metal !
Don Corleone
Emre
good point there. it's called "practicing what you preach" but it seems it will never happen. this is a sad world
Black Session
Heretic Misanthrope
for the israeli's on here: israel denies the armenian genocide ... how hypocrite can they be?
on the ancient cultures stuff: greeks nowadays have nothing in common with ancient greeks, irish people nowadays have nothing in common with those prehistoric structures, ...
the armenian genocide: the turks were very well aware that the armenians wanted their own country (as did all the rest). the armenians were neighbours as they lived in eastern anatolia (still do for a part) and them getting their own country would mean that an eventual turkey after the war (which the turks were already aware of as well) would be much smaller than they would want to. so they motivated the kurds to slaughter the armenians! ... for the simple reason that they wouldn't exist anymore to claim their own country! ... if that isn't genocide, what is? and the scale also means it is a holocaust, with 1,5 million people!
it is illustrating that today the turks (and other nations) are doing everything they can to stop the kurds on their turn. because soon after the armenian genocide, they started claiming their own country as well. there have been many slaughters of kurds as well. and turkey is using every mean possible today to surpress the kurds!
as for that neo-nazi on here: the mere fact that most of your kind has to deny the jewish Holocaust to make your ideology more acceptable is proof of how horrible it is. you are sad little people that can't believe such a massive slaughtering took place, so you deny it. but oh well, can't discuss with you people.
on the ancient cultures stuff: greeks nowadays have nothing in common with ancient greeks, irish people nowadays have nothing in common with those prehistoric structures, ...
the armenian genocide: the turks were very well aware that the armenians wanted their own country (as did all the rest). the armenians were neighbours as they lived in eastern anatolia (still do for a part) and them getting their own country would mean that an eventual turkey after the war (which the turks were already aware of as well) would be much smaller than they would want to. so they motivated the kurds to slaughter the armenians! ... for the simple reason that they wouldn't exist anymore to claim their own country! ... if that isn't genocide, what is? and the scale also means it is a holocaust, with 1,5 million people!
it is illustrating that today the turks (and other nations) are doing everything they can to stop the kurds on their turn. because soon after the armenian genocide, they started claiming their own country as well. there have been many slaughters of kurds as well. and turkey is using every mean possible today to surpress the kurds!
as for that neo-nazi on here: the mere fact that most of your kind has to deny the jewish Holocaust to make your ideology more acceptable is proof of how horrible it is. you are sad little people that can't believe such a massive slaughtering took place, so you deny it. but oh well, can't discuss with you people.
Hehehe. JUst to be a whiner, Ireland should be on that list of yours. The megalithic tombs, the one in Newgrange in particular pre-date the pyramids by a few hundred years.
And they also represent a culture that has long since died out.
Don Corleone
Emre
im sure israelis know better than a belgian what is genocide and what isnt.
shit, when did these young europeans become such (pseudo-)experts on the armenian genocide topic? hmm let me guess...since their governments forbade them from speaking against it?
necromancy
Long Live Heavy Metal!!!
Personally i think we should be reminded of genocides of the past so that they dont happen again. We keep track of history for a reason so that we can learn from the mistakes from the past. i would also like to say that the their self titled debut is a very heavy album and songs like sugar P.L.U.C.K Cubert Ddevil War? suite pee know suggestions spiders and soil are all amazing songs their second album is pretty good as well but it isnt as heavy as their first those who know the system of a down of today should check out their debut people would be surprised by how different it is. it isnt commercial at all. The new system of a down albums are all right (nothing special they are hated because 13 years olds love em up) but they dont hold a candle to older releases i also sorta hate them in a way becauses the fault of those albums that system of a down lost alot of respect.
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