working full time is drainging my soul

[Skyweaver]

I work 60 - 100 hours every week, which includes travel between Australia and Singapore.....the hours are long and the job is very stressful, but not having a job would be even more stressful....after 15 years of living like this, you learn how to manage time and try to find a balance. Just try to remember that off-shoring (people doing your job for cheaper in another country) is becoming more and more of a reality....so just having work and money to pay for rent, food, clothes etc is a good thing

 

[midget donkeys]

I feel for you guys with crappy jobs that over work you and or underpay you. I have worked in fields as a kid, grocery stores, loading freight, cutting steel etc. About three or four years ago I graduated from college (at 28 years old) as a mechanical engineer. This was largely payed for by the GI bill. No body gave jack, I didn't come from a family that had any kind of money.

I had a job lined up two weeks after graduation. Every year since I have continually made more money and now I am getting another job offer to pay me more. I get to decide who I work for and I make them bid for me. The recession is something I watch on tv effecting other people.

There is nothing which compares to getting a degree in a practical field. Something that involves lots of math, science and engineering. Avoid majors which are fluff. Look into the average salaries and availability of employment in fields of study you are interested in.

I strongly recommend pursuing an education. Everybody wants to play in a band, but the question is what do you want your day job to be? A clerk at a gas station or someone making four times as much money.

 

[joelplagues]

did the 9-5 for around a year in a major retail store.

After working my ass off for a while I eventually took a day off everyweek to focus on music, and I wasn't paid enough to work that much anyway.(Im not bitching, pay was terrible. I couldn't afford to move out of home working 9-5 monday-friday)

I had worked in almost every job role possible for the company so boredom starts to kick in once you've been through all the ranks and continually start fixing everyone elses fuck ups because no one else does their job right.

Even my manager hated the job and we both got the point were we wouldn't work unless something was urgent. otherwise we would sit around in the outdoor furniture department and chat until the head boss came past.

I know finding work can be hard sometimes but find something you will "semi enjoy" or atleast a job that changes alot. Doing the same thing everyday sucks hard. After studying for a year I can now pick and choose when I work(not that I work alot atm and the hours are all over the shop but the variation in work makes it enjoyable) and I record bands on the side for extra cash.

besides minor issues for myself LIFE RULES.

go work for a major P.A company. work can be hard sometimes but atleast your working around music which is awesome.

 

[Skyweaver]

I feel for you guys with crappy jobs that over work you and or underpay you. I have worked in fields as a kid, grocery stores, loading freight, cutting steel etc. About three or four years ago I graduated from college (at 28 years old) as a mechanical engineer. This was largely payed for by the GI bill. No body gave jack, I didn't come from a family that had any kind of money.

I had a job lined up two weeks after graduation. Every year since I have continually made more money and now I am getting another job offer to pay me more. I get to decide who I work for and I make them bid for me. The recession is something I watch on tv effecting other people.

There is nothing which compares to getting a degree in a practical field. Something that involves lots of math, science and engineering. Avoid majors which are fluff. Look into the average salaries and availability of employment in fields of study you are interested in.

I strongly recommend pursuing an education. Everybody wants to play in a band, but the question is what do you want your day job to be? A clerk at a gas station or someone making four times as much money.

+1 study, study and then play.....Project Management is another decent career

 

[timislegend]

this is a joke, right?

 

[HeadCrusher]

I'm not in school no, and I work at a McDonalds as a area supervisor. I mean that I work between 50% (80 hours a month) and 75% (120h) as opposed to the 160 hours of full time.

I actually know someone who is "only" a store manager but her hours are way worse than yours...

 

[Glenn Fricker]

There is nothing which compares to getting a degree in a practical field. Something that involves lots of math, science and engineering. Avoid majors which are fluff. Look into the average salaries and availability of employment in fields of study you are interested in.

I strongly recommend pursuing an education. Everybody wants to play in a band, but the question is what do you want your day job to be? A clerk at a gas station or someone making four times as much money.

As far as Canada is concerned, I'm going to have to call "BULLSHIT!" on that one.

I've got a diploma in the Media Arts, and had to go into business for myself. After 12 years, I'm still at it part-time. My day job is on an assembly line, where I work with many people who have all sorts of practical degrees.

My wife, on the other hand, has degrees in International Relations, Business, a Teacher's certificate, 'Special Needs' certification, and several upgrades to that Teacher's certificate. She works the midnight shift on a different assembly line.

I know that flies in the face of what we've been told, but the truth of the matter is, we've got an overabundance of highly educated people who are vastly underemployed. We've got Comp Sci grads working at WalMart, and Lawyers driving cabs.

Don't belive me? Check this out, a recent cover of Maclean's... Canada's equivalent of "Time" magazine.

My advice: Save your money. Don't buy into the bullshit that an education is going to give you a future. It's not. Most of the jobs have been shipped off to India & China.

 

[Pot]

As far as Canada is concerned, I'm going to have to call "BULLSHIT!" on that one.

I've got a diploma in the Media Arts, and had to go into business for myself. After 12 years, I'm still at it part-time. My day job is on an assembly line, where I work with many people who have all sorts of practical degrees.

My wife, on the other hand, has degrees in International Relations, Business, a Teacher's certificate, 'Special Needs' certification, and several upgrades to that Teacher's certificate. She works the midnight shift on a different assembly line.

I know that flies in the face of what we've been told, but the truth of the matter is, we've got an overabundance of highly educated people who are vastly underemployed. We've got Comp Sci grads working at WalMart, and Lawyers driving cabs.

Don't belive me? Check this out, a recent cover of Maclean's... Canada's equivalent of "Time" magazine.

My advice: Save your money. Don't buy into the bullshit that an education is going to give you a future. It's not. Most of the jobs have been shipped off to India & China.

this is so true that is sad....going unemployed for almost 2 years now and i have an ""education""

 

[Ermz]

Christ guys, you're making me feel like I won the lottery by being able to do the AE thing full time. Are things really so bad out there in the workforce?

 

[Chris_P_Critter]

@OP - Just be happy you have a job dude. I was laid off in March of last year and I STILL dont' have a job that would feed my three kids, my wife and I.

Be thankful - it could always be much, much worse.

 

[HandsOfDespair]

I also did 2 degrees and right now I'm pushing carts ar a grocery store at minimal wage. It's REALLY frustrating. At least I only have to work 20-25 hours a week, so I can spend the rest of my time on music. I also have 3 bands to record this year, and I'll probably able to find more, so maybe I won't have to work at the grocery store for a couple of years .

It's really hard to find great jobs, most of the time it's just a matter of knowing someone who already work there that can get you in.

 

[Mikaël-ange]

Poor guys...
I working 8h/day on a factory. Doing audio during 8h/day after that. No day off... But I haven't soul

 

[Notuern]

Christ guys, you're making me feel like I won the lottery by being able to do the AE thing full time. Are things really so bad out there in the workforce?

Yes, it is(In Sweden at least.).

I have a friend who has a masters in computer science and software engineering, he currently works at the warehouse to a bucket factory for near minimum wage(Most of his coworkers never finished 10th grade.).

 

[Ola Englund]

Been working 8 to 5 ever since I finished school(11 years ago). It's a privilege to have a job. Because of it I have a great life, a nice home, money to feed my son and wife. I've always have had music as a hobby/spare time thing. Of course I wouldn't mind having more time to make music but that means I have to work less = less income. Not an option.

So suck it up or find a better job.

 

[MarcusGHedwig]

I want to ask for part time. it's about a 30 min drive.

I work at a retirement facility doing inventory for all the med rooms and such on campus. I also do misc electronics work, all the broken shit comes to me.

My boss is the biggest dweeb i have ever met, one reason why I hate it.

Did you ever get my message?

Yeah, I'd definitely say there's hope on the horizon for a less miserable workplace environment, so fear not And sorry about the delay in responding (been working quite a bit myself, blehhhh), but your PM box is full, so I'll answer your question here - I live in Putnam County NY, which is pretty close to the city - our local venue is The Chance in Poughkeepsie, and it's a pretty sweet spot IMO, tons of bands big and small have played it, so I'd highly recommend it! Good luck man, hope to see you guys soon

 

[midget donkeys]

As far as Canada is concerned, I'm going to have to call "BULLSHIT!" on that one.

I've got a diploma in the Media Arts, and had to go into business for myself. After 12 years, I'm still at it part-time. My day job is on an assembly line, where I work with many people who have all sorts of practical degrees.

My wife, on the other hand, has degrees in International Relations, Business, a Teacher's certificate, 'Special Needs' certification, and several upgrades to that Teacher's certificate. She works the midnight shift on a different assembly line.

I know that flies in the face of what we've been told, but the truth of the matter is, we've got an overabundance of highly educated people who are vastly underemployed. We've got Comp Sci grads working at WalMart, and Lawyers driving cabs.

Don't belive me? Check this out, a recent cover of Maclean's... Canada's equivalent of "Time" magazine.

My advice: Save your money. Don't buy into the bullshit that an education is going to give you a future. It's not. Most of the jobs have been shipped off to India & China.

Degrees in bullshit = no jobs in field. Every degree you listed is worth jack in the workplace. Read my post I said degrees based on math, science and engineering are were it is at for getting good paying jobs.

 

[DanLights]

Degrees in bullshit = no jobs in field. Every degree you listed is worth jack in the workplace. Read my post I said degrees based on math, science and engineering are were it is at for getting good paying jobs.

I agree with you, although I am aware the situation is kinda fucked up in Canada, unlike Spain for example, where nobody wants to study 5 year careers (they were recently changed to 4 years around Europe now) cause they can study a 1 year formation course or not study at all and get a decent job, living at minimum wage or a little better for the rest of their lives. So in Spain's case, studying is actually worth it cause there are openings for it

 

[Glenn Fricker]

I'd hardly call a teacher's cert "bullshit." Or Comp Sci.

My own diploma was worth something, although every production house I went to said "We'd love to hire you, we just can't afford you."

Hell, my best friend is an unemployed Environmental Scientist.

While I do agree there are some completely useless post-secondary programs out there, a great many people have been fed a lot of lies in Canada. It's great for the education industry, but not so great for the students. Even the engineering grads are having a hard time finding work.
The only career that has a future at the moment seems to be in the Skilled Trades.

 

[AD Chaos]

I work as a private-tutoring gtr teacher (w college degree/diploma in musical arts & gtr)

Pros: It's a GREAT job, I am my own boss, make my own hours, good money for GASing
Cons: Not a steady income (BIG con)

Been thinking about opening up a studio but I don't have the doe for that kind of thing (maybe w a loan.. dunno)
These people near where I live opened up a studio/rehearsal/rock bar/teaching place in the middle of the city, built from the ground up.. Income almost 24/7

 

[Torniojaws]

I'm quite lucky to work for an IT outsourcing company It's kind of hard to outsource outsourcing, so the job should be stable. Hell, I'm a newbie and my contract is still permanent! With the national average salary for IT engineers and no girlfriend, so I can live very leisurely with no money problems