30 minute metal song

[Frank'nfurter]

Very epic opus. I feel like I'm in egypt now.
But as the other threaders said, to much overal compression and the Drums are definitely in need of some improvement.
All you need now is a singer in a style like Devin Townsend.

 

[Mendel]

Very epic opus. I feel like I'm in egypt now.
But as the other threaders said, to much overal compression and the Drums are definitely in need of some improvement.
All you need now is a singer in a style like Devin Townsend.

hahha thx !! and thx allot for that tips yeah.

and devin pwns

i think im going to re arange the drums from dfh2 to dfhs.

 

[militantmandy]

That was superb man! I take it the drums are all programmed?

 

[Mendel]

yes !

 

[Executioner213]

Are you just using Drumkit From Hell for the drums?

 

[black sugar]

Mendel. Dude, on the whole, that's really fuckin' impressive.

You've come a long way in a short time.

 

[Black neon bob]

Good shit Mendel the Metal Meister!!

And yes, i am on the same page as Burny is there... it would be really good to hear a unmastered clip of the song...

I too feel, like i said before, that you rely a bit too much on mastering wih much, much compression... but damn, a 30 minute song though!! haha.. amazing dude... freakin amazing!

And yes, you have come a long way in a very short time... can't wait to hear more from you as well...

Now take a bow..

 

[Glenn Fricker]

Mendel, I applaud your musical vision.... really wild stuff you've got going on there.

As for the mix, it's really, really far too hyper compressed. You can really hear the pumping during the guitar riff at about 2:40.... I'm also noticing the snare gets lost in the mix here & there... again, I'm guessing too much compression.

A track like this should be treated very gently at the mastering phase.... It's 30 minutes long, there should be ebb & flow with the dynamics. If it's "all loud, all the time" it's just gonna be boring.

Suggestions: dump some of the mud frequencies out of the guitars & remaster... with little compression. You've got an epic here and it should benefit from the softer parts: it makes the louder parts that much more exciting. If I want to crank it up, that's what my volume control is for


That being said, I'm curious as to what you used for the guitar tone & drum sounds.
-0z-

 

[Hellalpha]

Bolt Thrower.......Nile......Behemoth.....Emperor.....Blind Guradian...Megadeth.....

dude! musically very very good.

Said compression/programming problems though. Has the makings of being excellent.

 

[Nostalgiaplatz]

Wow man! the only flawed thing is the lack of definition on some parts and some others which were slightly rushed! I'd skip over the classical shit. The guitar and drum work is brilliant. Mind me asking what was the rig you used for guitars?

Cheers

 

[Mendel]

ook thx guys ! im going to get all plugins off the master bus. and then post a clip. that's what you guy wanted right ? hold on.

 

[Mendel]

here it is. and omfg it sounds awefull!

mp3: http://members.chello.nl/j.leijbijde/nomaster.mp3

and here is a pic of the masterbus:

 

[Mendel]

Wow man! the only flawed thing is the lack of definition on some parts and some others which were slightly rushed! I'd skip over the classical shit. The guitar and drum work is brilliant. Mind me asking what was the rig you used for guitars?

Cheers

well my rig is kinda expensive !! but ok here it comes. get prepared !!

mes boogie dual rctifier with a road king dual box 2006.
and ofcourse the mut have tubescremer cause, you must have it.
and the rig itself is allot of midi controllers combined wit hthe highest technol O OK OK OK OK ! i was kidding.

just my podxt

 

[Mendel]

Mendel, I applaud your musical vision.... really wild stuff you've got going on there.

As for the mix, it's really, really far too hyper compressed. You can really hear the pumping during the guitar riff at about 2:40.... I'm also noticing the snare gets lost in the mix here & there... again, I'm guessing too much compression.

A track like this should be treated very gently at the mastering phase.... It's 30 minutes long, there should be ebb & flow with the dynamics. If it's "all loud, all the time" it's just gonna be boring.

Suggestions: dump some of the mud frequencies out of the guitars & remaster... with little compression. You've got an epic here and it should benefit from the softer parts: it makes the louder parts that much more exciting. If I want to crank it up, that's what my volume control is for


That being said, I'm curious as to what you used for the guitar tone & drum sounds.
-0z-

well i was thinking about re recording the whole thing @ bobby's place. but since bobby and i don't have enough money to buy that much of coffee to stay asleep. it would be impossible.

 

[~BURNY~]

See... There's a huge amount of low/low mids that is sucking all the energy. Start looking into this until it sounds fine without master buss process.

 

[Black neon bob]

once again, Burny is right on the money there.. low and mid, a bit too much...

Mendel, you really wanted to record all of that over here? damn!! that will take weeks to get that finished in this craphole..

You could always send the stuff unprocessed though, and let me give it a try.. haha...

 

[Mendel]

but . . wouldnt that be impossible :| well i can try. anyone or burny himself have more tips ?

 

[Mendel]

once again, Burny is right on the money there.. low and mid, a bit too much...

Mendel, you really wanted to record all of that over here? damn!! that will take weeks to get that finished in this craphole..

You could always send the stuff unprocessed though, and let me give it a try.. haha...

you must have time to finish toxic grind machine !! and it wsa kinda a joke

 

[~BURNY~]

More tips?
Well, I'm probably not the best at doing great sounding mixes out there but I'd start with filters.
You have to remove that rumble using shelves or high pass filters. I can't say if it comes from the guitar or the bass guitar or both but they are obviously fighting each other and they are hiding the snare and the bass drum. I don't know...
It's usually better to remove something instead of boosting something else unless you really can't achieve what you want.
For example, if your bass drum sounds tiny (without balls/boom) while listening to the bass guitar at the same time, remove some low frequencies from the bass guitar instead of boosting the lows on the bass drum. It's just an example, I'm not saying you should do it, but try to think that way.

 

[Mendel]

ok thx !! that's verry usefl !! thx