90s Alternative/Post-Grunge

Einherjar86

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This isn't a recommendations thread (unless you want to recommend something, ;) ); I was just wondering what some people's favorite bands are from the post-grunge era. Personally, I love the band Live. I get made fun of by my friends, but I can't help it. I own every Live record (admittedly, certain records are very sub-par, especially V). I think they're incredible. So, before this turns into a rant on how Live is an amazing band, let's have others share their favorites.
 
It's a sub-genre of alternative that emerged after the height of the grunge scene. Most bands in the post-grunge era had only a few hits, and ended up on those BUZZ compilations. There are some really good bands that came out of this time, though. Some of the bands include:

Bush
Collective Soul
Everclear
Semisonic
Tonic
Filter
Foo Fighters
Live
Incubus
Harvey Danger (remember these guys? :cool: )
Our Lady Peace
Stiltskin
The Verve Pipe
 
I laughed at them when their first album came out. I just didn't like the first song they released on Mtv. But, right before they released their first single for Throwing Copper, I won a copy from a radio station in a parking lot. I was walking to my car, and a guy I knew years back called me over. He was working for 98 rock, out of Tampa. I already, for 3-4 years stopped listening to the radio. But, this old friend asked me to name 5 live albums, win the new Live cd. Easy enough...I took it home, and was hooked after the first 4 tracks. I then went and picked up Mental Jewelry, gladly admitting that I was way off about them! I have Secret Samadhi as well. I like it a little better than Throwing Copper. One thing about the TC album...I was going through a really depressing period then, and along with Dream Theater's Awake album, they helped get me through the rough times. So, I always have fondness for that album. When I won it from 98 rock, I kinda didn't expect it to be that good.
 
post grunge always confused me but your right, there are some good songs in there. Bush, Collective Soul... was Candlebox "post grunge" ? What was Creed ?... theres a band everyone loves to hate, I still like my Alterbridge CD. Shinedown, Disturbed probably called something else... lol

I did turn away from rock radio around that time though due to some of the sounds, or lack there of, to much full chord bashing and ride cymbal crashing for me, I started listening to country for the firt time in my life because I wanted tonal quality. Rockmetal got better again later on
 
I got into bands like Incubus and 311 for a while, but I don't listen to them at all anymore. I find most post-grunge stuff boring as hell.
 
Oasis
Powderfinger

And definitely Live. Love that band. Though Songs from Black Mountain really grinds my gears. Really uninspired, lame songwriting. Much worse than V, IMO.

I forgot about Oasis; good call.

I actually like Songs From Black Mountain. No doubt, there are some bad songs on that record; but on the whole, I think there are a few songs that are way better than anything on V. But that's just my opinion. Overcome, from V, was an absolutely killer song, so that bumps the album up a few points. That whole thing about incorporating rap into their music just really pissed me off though. Live doesn't need to do that in their music (and it really sounds terrible; Ed cannot rap at all).

I laughed at them when their first album came out. I just didn't like the first song they released on Mtv. But, right before they released their first single for Throwing Copper, I won a copy from a radio station in a parking lot. I was walking to my car, and a guy I knew years back called me over. He was working for 98 rock, out of Tampa. I already, for 3-4 years stopped listening to the radio. But, this old friend asked me to name 5 live albums, win the new Live cd. Easy enough...I took it home, and was hooked after the first 4 tracks. I then went and picked up Mental Jewelry, gladly admitting that I was way off about them! I have Secret Samadhi as well. I like it a little better than Throwing Copper. One thing about the TC album...I was going through a really depressing period then, and along with Dream Theater's Awake album, they helped get me through the rough times. So, I always have fondness for that album. When I won it from 98 rock, I kinda didn't expect it to be that good.

That's a cool story. Throwing Copper definitely has some amazing songwriting on it. Mental Jewelry is great as well, although a very different sound. It has more of a funk influence, especially with all that slap bass. Secret Samadhi is amazing, and definitely an overlooked record. It's so dark, and in the vein of something like Smashing Pumpkins. Rattlesnake, Lakini's Juice, Ghost, Freaks, and Turn Your Head are all killer.

post grunge always confused me but your right, there are some good songs in there. Bush, Collective Soul... was Candlebox "post grunge" ? What was Creed ?... theres a band everyone loves to hate, I still like my Alterbridge CD. Shinedown, Disturbed probably called something else... lol

I did turn away from rock radio around that time though due to some of the sounds, or lack there of, to much full chord bashing and ride cymbal crashing for me, I started listening to country for the firt time in my life because I wanted tonal quality. Rockmetal got better again later on

Creed, Alterbridge, and Shinedown are all considered post-grunge by most people (I mean, it can be such a wide genre, because anything that sounds somewhat like grunge nowadays can be post-grunge, because it's all "after grunge"). However, I don't really consider them post-grunge. I usually lump them in with just modern pop-alternative. Granted, they are heavier and lean towards a grunge sound... I don't know. I'm just not the hugest fan of those particular bands. You can argue that they're part of this genre though, definitely.

I got into bands like Incubus and 311 for a while, but I don't listen to them at all anymore. I find most post-grunge stuff boring as hell.

I don't really listen to it much anymore (with the exception of Live). It's more the kind of genre that you go back in your more mature years and think "oh yeah, I remember this band." For me, it's kind of nostalgic. Still, there are some great songs that were written in this era. I still sing along to "Closing Time" every time I hear it. :cool:
 
I actually like Songs From Black Mountain. No doubt, there are some bad songs on that record; but on the whole, I think there are a few songs that are way better than anything on V. But that's just my opinion. Overcome, from V, was an absolutely killer song, so that bumps the album up a few points. That whole thing about incorporating rap into their music just really pissed me off though. Live doesn't need to do that in their music (and it really sounds terrible; Ed cannot rap at all).

I actually just re-listened to SFBM today because of this thread and, well, my opinion didn't really change. I mean, there's maybe 3 "good" songs. But I feel like even those are pretty substandard for Live. I mean, they've never been a progressive band, but I find the album really bland and the lyrics/melodies to be almost childish. I dunno. To each his own.

There's probably about 3 songs off V that I really like, Overcome of course being one of them. Even though V may have been more of a miss in terms of concept, I liked that they tried something different. SFBM, to me, just sounds like they wanted to make another classic "Live-sounding" album and just plain forgot how. Plus, it feels like Ed has nothing important left to say beyond "peace is good, war is bad, I love my daughter, go Buddha!" Which is all fine and dandy if that's what you're into, but diversify!

I also forgot Queens of the Stone Age/Kyuss.
 
It's a sub-genre of alternative that emerged after the height of the grunge scene. Most bands in the post-grunge era had only a few hits, and ended up on those BUZZ compilations. There are some really good bands that came out of this time, though. Some of the bands include:

Bush
Collective Soul
Everclear
Semisonic
Tonic
Filter
Foo Fighters
Live
Incubus
Harvey Danger (remember these guys? :cool: )
Our Lady Peace
Stiltskin
The Verve Pipe

wasn't collective soul out before grunge was over?
 
Yes, but they came into popularity at literally the very end. Their first album was released in 1994, about one month before Cobain killed himself. The single from that record had been released only slightly before that. So they didn't really ride the grunge wave.
 
ah, the whole grunge/post grunge thing is a farse to me. It was a sound, a sound that influenced and carried on for years and Cobain nor Seattle owned the soul rights to the term. I actually consider Candlebox, Alterbridge, Shinedown, Disturbed and the likes to be simply commercially palatable/acceptable metal fused rock that has some other influences or avenues. Christ they all have songs far "heavier" than Iron Maiden and Im not downing Maiden, its just a fact that metal and many other styles, including grunge and rock are present in all current and past "heavy" music.

So from this day forward I will call it all rockmetal...:D
if its grungy I will say its grungy, just like we did when Sabbath came out. If it has elements of punk or rap I will just turn it off..... lol
 
Rockmetal.... Ha.... see I too can create new genre titles

Post-grunge isn't a new genre title. Do you live under a rock or something? It's a term that's used more often than flower metal or National Socialist Black Metal.

And... rock-metal isn't all that new either. People do use it. I use it too actually, though like you I choose to make up my own definitions for genres regardless of whether people agree with it or not. For me, it works the same way as prog-rock or folk-metal or anything. Rock-metal is metal with a rock influence, sound or attitude. Metal-rock would be a rock with a metal influence, sound or attitude.

I like your idea about rockmetal though. I agree that these 'non-metal' bands are way heavier than any of the earliest metal bands. I think grunge and post-grunge refer to a scene or refer to certain attributes, like NSBM does, rather than being a specific genre of music.
 
Most of the bands in your original list are terrible tbh

I think the only ones I can tolerate now are Live, Collective Soul and maybe Tonic

Well, like I said, I don't really listen to many of these bands anymore, except Live. But they were huge for me in middle school. They were bands that had their day, but have since been cast aside for more refined tastes. :cool: So yeah, I wouldn't say terrible necessarily, but definitely not bands I would listen to much anymore; but still, they were a part of my "growing up" process.
 
I've found it interesting, that around here where I live (under a rock).... upstate NY.. so they call it, we're actually midstate. Around here the radio stations that were playing the current rock in the 70's & 80's are still playing that same music. The more aggressive stations that came around just before Grunge that were playing metal at first but took full on to the Grunge thing and whatever was current during the 90's are still playing that same music, I will give them credit for playing some new stuff too. But you can still hear all that popular music from that era on that station. Then reaching further back into the 60's & early 70's AM radio.... those same stations are still playing all that same music. Its like no one updates their library and the archives become the standard air play.

STK - Its all Rockmetal to me now, aint gonna get wrapped up in everyones need to subgenre everything anymore. Gonna keep it simple so no band can fall through the loop, heaven forbid they should apply some outside influence that doesnt fit such and such a subgenre... theres two styles of hard/heavy rock music - Rockmetal and Garbage...... lol

This latest Alterbridge CD is Ok but not as good as the first