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Matt
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Besides the usual NRA propaganda, you hardly ever hear of anyone taking down a criminal with his concealed weapon.
And without illegal immigrants this country would collapse.
Dakryn: I don't have contempt for the constitution. I have contempt for those who can't see that it isn't perfect and was meant to be altered as times change. The founding fathers were vague on purpose.
And without illegal immigrants this country would collapse.
Dakryn: I don't have contempt for the constitution. I have contempt for those who can't see that it isn't perfect and was meant to be altered as times change. The founding fathers were vague on purpose.
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Mathiäs;8921332 said:
Yeah thank god we have illegal immigrants to drain our tax-funded services to which they don't contribute, as well as running up massive emergency room bills which cause hospitals to shut down. Not to mention basically importing the problems of Mexico's broken and unsustainable society into our own.
Where would we be without them!
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Mathiäs;8921332 said:
And you wonder why I take nothing you say seriously? Completely ill-informed statements like this.
Mathiäs;8921332 said:
They were vague to leave the government out of as much as possible, not for room for later people to clog up everything with more law and beaurocracy.
SentinelSlain
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This thread is pretty amusing.
Anyway I quite like the idea of having quite a lot of land surrounding my house and not being boxed in. From my understanding a great proportion of people in America can do that than here. I also like the idea of going somewhere where my language and race wont immediately make me an outsider, obviously my accent could, but hopefully only to a limited extent. The whole America, fuck yeah, big military budget and what not, doesn't make it any more attractive a place to live for an outsider, but it secures a lot of countries that don't have that, that people also like to move to.
I actually think I understand the pro gun lobby point of view, despite being British, and hence part of a plot to enslave Americans into the Empire once again.
Basically some people aren't stupid enough to want to get nailed to the floor and fed through a pipe in order that people don't accidentally bump into each other. Giving away freedom for security and ease of centralised organisation isn't smart and that's something you have to work out for yourself.
I do think that right wing American's should be aware that some of their favourite ideas, like the Castle Doctrine are actually British, it's just cultural changes that have occurred in Britain, together with our lack of a written constitution have taken them away.
Anyway I quite like the idea of having quite a lot of land surrounding my house and not being boxed in. From my understanding a great proportion of people in America can do that than here. I also like the idea of going somewhere where my language and race wont immediately make me an outsider, obviously my accent could, but hopefully only to a limited extent. The whole America, fuck yeah, big military budget and what not, doesn't make it any more attractive a place to live for an outsider, but it secures a lot of countries that don't have that, that people also like to move to.
I actually think I understand the pro gun lobby point of view, despite being British, and hence part of a plot to enslave Americans into the Empire once again.
Basically some people aren't stupid enough to want to get nailed to the floor and fed through a pipe in order that people don't accidentally bump into each other. Giving away freedom for security and ease of centralised organisation isn't smart and that's something you have to work out for yourself.
I do think that right wing American's should be aware that some of their favourite ideas, like the Castle Doctrine are actually British, it's just cultural changes that have occurred in Britain, together with our lack of a written constitution have taken them away.
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As much as I don't want to get into a debate with you of all people, what exactly is the problem with legal immigrants?
And thank you
Really Mathais, what the fuck did you base that statement on ? Were at 10% documented unemployment, that doesnt count the "ghettos", drug dealers, pimps and hoes, those living at home with mom and pop, the self employed out of work, those unable to collect, those in school, those pushed into early retirement, just those collecting... WTF is 10% of this countries population anyhow ?
The constitution was kept minimal, those poor fools could never have imagined freedom of speach meant douch bag rappers and punk kids would need to say fuck every 5th word of a song or right to bare arms meant kids would shoot their best friends because they grew up on video games and violent or horror movies with no idea of reality.
Right to bare arms was literally written so the people of this country could make a stand against repression from our own kind. The constitution was also written so a majority... 51+% could not dominate the free will of the remaining percent. In other words all the bleeding heart pussy liberal Moms and their pussy wipped half men counterparts could not impose their wanky assed ideals on the rest of us, forcing others into submission by crying like babies to the government all the time via lobby. If anything that "room in the constitution" needs to be adjusted to get this pussifacation of America under control.
Damn good thing we have a strong military otherwise this country is so pussified it would reek like a fish boat.
King Richard
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probably just me that feels that way because I dont fall back on the "were all decendants of immigrants" routeen.
Because the country is full, because immigrants are entitled to our social security money immeadiatly, because our children have to compete and loose against immigrants for college grants, because immigrants can get public assistance while our elderly that suddenly got strapped by overinflated property tax assessments and shrinking or vanishing pensions funds could not. If I knew more I could make a longer list.
New immigrants did not make this country, this country was made by those that came here 80-200 years ago, it was no free ride, no welcome wagon, it was do or die, today its roll out the carpet... fuck that, that was then this is now, the country is full and faltering, fix your own country, heres the example, our ancestors fought, sweat, bled and died for this, thats what it takes, do it for your own kind and your own homeland than you can be truely proud and so would we be.
Badbird
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great pointless contribution as always "Tom", I have no doubt there is occasionally a thought in your brain that could be applied to reason but waiting for it seems ellusive
Badbird
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I know lots of people who liked rap that aren't gansters,and people who liked horror movies that don't killed people in their hockey mask.
yes this is true but boys used to hunt, raise and butcher aminals with their fathers before this country became the land of burbies and they knew what bullets did, blood really looked like and what death really was... not todays glorified version.
Due to it being glorified and the counrty being turned into burbs is no grounds to take guns away from people because assholes walk into school, MacDonalds and have a live go at their video game or favorite glorified movie... that is the grounds the anti gun people want to use to take guns.
Now I would guess a higher percentage of "Hollywood" and "metalheads" would like to take guns but will trump their free speach card to promote their sick entertainment.
Quite a hypocritical conundrom no ?
cookiecutter
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Europe is a bunch of pussies with centuries of repressing thier people, playing dominance games and got their ass kicked first in 1776 by a bunch of FUCKING REDNECKS !
FUCK YEAH! Good thing America never repressed part of their population. Land of the free.Hate to break it to you but illegal immigrants pay lots of taxes and often cannot get the services that you imagine they use. They do cost the government money in many ways, but don't think illegal immigrants are purely a drain on society. Things are never that simple.
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You have no idea what you're talking about. If immigrants have such an easy time of it these days why do they work in fields picking fruit for below minimum wage? Why do they drive taxis and work in convenience stores? It's because they are exactly the same as the immigrants who came to the US before now, even those who came 80-200 years ago. The only difference now is that they are coming from Asia and Latin America rather than Europe. Also I would like to think nativist bigotry is less apparent now than it was in the past but you seem to contradict that idea.
If you think immigration was better in the past you are totally ignorant of American history.
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ThrasherStax
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damnromulans
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lol @ razoredge for hating legal immigrants.
sorry buddy but they're fucking citizens and have EVERY right to be here and live their lives. just because someone is white and old and was born in the USA doesn't mean they are more entitled to govt-provided services than Qing or Ahmed who jumped through all the hoops to become a legal citizen. a citizen is a citizen.
i bet you're all about WHITE POWER as well
sorry buddy but they're fucking citizens and have EVERY right to be here and live their lives. just because someone is white and old and was born in the USA doesn't mean they are more entitled to govt-provided services than Qing or Ahmed who jumped through all the hoops to become a legal citizen. a citizen is a citizen.
i bet you're all about WHITE POWER as well
