Amps that changed the sound of rock/metal.....

[GuitarHack]

What about Krank ??

Agreed!!!


C'mon, the first time you heard Doomsday Machine didn't you think, holy crap!

 

[Gnash]

Whatever Marshall that was stolen from Metallica after it was used on the "Kill em All" album has to be my favorite tone Metallica has ever had. Whoever stole it 25 years ago, pm me!

 

[whitedamp]

Do you think that these cool hi-gain amps like Engl, Bogner, Diezel and Krank really had a major role changing the sound of metal? I mean, they have a wonderful tone, but IMHO they didn´t changed that much how metal sounds. At least nothing compared to Mesa Dual Rectifier and Mark, Marshall JCM800 and Plexi, Peavey 5150, Vox AC30, Soldano SLO100 and Line6 POD line.

 

[Torniojaws]

Well, Engl Savage 120 is a big part of the gothenburg sound. But overall, I agree. I don't think they changed the sound. They just updated it for the most part.

 

[axeman720]

I see some of you guys posting replys pertaining to what has actually been critical in recording and pro history and some of you who are kind of replying with what consumers are snatching up trying to chase the tone of their favorite records.

I think there is a few amps out there that actually had real impact on what we expect to hear from a well produced rock and metal recording.

Mesa- Dual rec, MarkIIc+, III and IV
Peavey 5150
Marshall Jcm 800 and Superlead- Especially any good hotrodded marshall

Those are the most influential in my opinion and there is a reason we continue to hear these amps again and again on records.

 

[Metaltastic]

And maybe the Soldano SLO100 and Bogner Uberschall.

There is 1 amp missing so far and thats the Soldano SLO100

Way ahead of ya buddy

 

[Seizure.]

Marschall JMP.

 

[Kevin Kitchel]

Don't rule out the Ampeg SS-150 or 140 solid state heads. Assuck, Discordance Axis, Suffocation, and many more.

 

[beyond dead]

i had a crate 100w 212 combo when i was 18 and for a beginners amp it smoked!!! pinch harmonics scream and dimebag riffage sizzled!!! not a serious amp but for an intermediate musician it was fucking stellar!!!

 

[Metaltastic]

Don't rule out the Ampeg SS-150 or 140 solid state heads. Assuck, Discordance Axis, Suffocation, and many more.

Isn't it the VH-140C? Cuz I know the guitarist of Kamelot uses one

 

[grywolf627]

Isn't it the VH-140C? Cuz I know the guitarist of Kamelot uses one

Is that what he uses? I've always wondered what he uses. I'm a huge fan of Kamelot, but I absolutely hate his tone...especially on Ghost Opera.

By the way, glad you mentioned the Soldano.

 

[slashvanyoung]

And - though Shane/Kazrog listed them as epic failures - the Marshall Valvestates undoubtedly deserve some recognition for igniting the wave of hybrid amps that, like solid states, could never step out of it's niche. The Mosfets too...

 

[Metaltastic]

And - though Shane/Kazrog listed them as epic failures - the Marshall Valvestates undoubtedly deserve some recognition for igniting the wave of hybrid amps that, like solid states, could never step out of it's niche. The Mosfets too...

What amps were MosFETS? Did the Valvestates use that as their power section?

 

[slashvanyoung]

What amps were MosFETS? Did the Valvestates use that as their power section?

I mean the Lead 100 Mosfet, which was basically the first Marshall with a Mosfet section, all around solid-state. Was a big step in the development of solid-states . I've heard many people argue that the Lead 100 Mosfets were a lot better than their successors, the MG series.

AFAIK only the 8280 and 8200 of the first Valvestate series had MOSFET transistors.

 

[Let it burn...]

the dual recto brought us nu metal, maybe we should keep it out of this list because of that

 

[Chryst Krispies]

MarshallMarshallMarshallMarshallMarshallMarshall.

Van Halen 1 anyone???????!?!?!?

 

[beyond dead]

i think that sabbath was the most influential band as far as metal riffage and tone goes. agreed????

 

[Exocaster]

If I had to make a list- for metal; I'm excluding the old Fenders, Voxes and such- it would look something like this:

Marshall Superlead- you figure it out.

Marshall JMP- Master volume. (and if you know your Marshall history, you know the JCM 800 is pretty much the same amp.) Not the first master volume, but the tone for a large chunk of heavy music history was defined by those amps.

Mesa Mark II- Channel switcher, cascading gain stages.

Marshall JCM 800 2205 and 2210- Channel switcher with separate EQ and gain controls for the clean channel.

Soldano SLO 100- Modern high gain.

Mesa Dual Rectifier- A huge tonal shift from the upper mid bite of the Marshalls that previously defined high gain guitar tones. Thick low mids and massive bottom end; very different tone-wise from the previous generation of high gain amps like the SLO and Mesa Mark IV.

I don't know where the 5150 or some of the more recent designs (Engls, Uberschall, etc.) would fit in there after the Recto. God knows the 5150's pervasive enough- it's like the JCM 800 of this generation of metal.

 

[kaomao]

Dual recto !
Before dual recto there weren't amps having such a big bottom end as that amp.
It's the first amp with such big lowmids!
All hail the recto's

 

[Skaldir]

the dual recto brought us nu metal, maybe we

should keep it out of this list because of that

Agreed!