Any Religious people out there?

I don't like organized, tightly defined religions. They cause fanaticism and discrimation, restrict people unnecesarily, act as a shield for wrongdoing (eg Bin Laden), and just generally provoke blind, stupid acts. If you believe in a God and a heaven, then so be it- act with kindness, do good, and pray for a few minutes before bed. Any god worth worshipping would rather see followers do volunteer work or help a neighbor than spend 2 hours in a church service, and give money to charity than an elaborate church.

Personally, I think there is/was a higher entity/god that created the universe, started life on earth, and possibly even dictates extraterrestial events. However, I don't see any evidence of God doing anything for me, or the rest of humanity for that matter, so as far as I can tell, there's no reason to pay homage to it.
 
alexhays said:
im a satanist

Why are you a satinist ? What has satan done for you lately ? As I satated in my original post, I am not "religious" but spiritual. I suppose satan could be considered a "spirit" as well so this is not a post to offend you but a serious question. What good does that particular entity (satan) do for you ?


Bryant
 
egonomic666 said:
im spiritual which means i beleive in a god or a higher power but i follow no specific religion itake the lessons taught and applie them so i live a good life thats it, ( my family is all christian so i celebrate christmas)


I agree with you as well. I was raised in a Christian family. I am not Christian at all, but I do appreciate some of the values that were instilled in me because of that. I am familiar enough with the religion that I know Christians are supposed to love all of our "brothers and sisters" whether they are "saved" or not.
I try to love all of of my metal-head brothers and sisters even though I might not agree with everything they say or like the same bands they do. Maybe that's a Christian thing or maybe a "hippie" thing, but that is me.
It takes a lot more brainpower to hate than to love.


Bryant
 
Bryant said:
I agree with you as well. I was raised in a Christian family. I am not Christian at all, but I do appreciate some of the values that were instilled in me because of that. I am familiar enough with the religion that I know Christians are supposed to love all of our "brothers and sisters" whether they are "saved" or not.
I try to love all of of my metal-head brothers and sisters even though I might not agree with everything they say or like the same bands they do. Maybe that's a Christian thing or maybe a "hippie" thing, but that is me.
It takes a lot more brainpower to hate than to love.


Bryant
I AM GLAD YOU SIGNED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR POSTS WITH YOUR NAME OTHERWISE I WOULD HAVE BEEN CONFUSED AS TO WHO POSTED IT

-BRYANT
 
Bryant - Satanists don't believe Satan is an actual being. They believe that Satan is more of a symbol of power.

If they believed that Satan was real, then they would be forced to acknowledge the existence of God, which in turn would refute their entire philosophy.
 
lord667 said:
I'm agnostic. I'm willing to accept the possibility of a higher power, but I don't think Islam, Christianity, and all the other mad cults are likely to be an accurate representation of it, if it even exists at all. I definitely don't believe that God gives a flying fuck whether or not you have a beard or foreskin, whether you wear a hat or shoes in the little building you built without him asking you to, whether you wear a burqa or a bikini, or any of the other kind stupid, meaningless shite that humans have invented to "show respect" to a God who apparently knows all and can see your soul and thus DOESN'T NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE WEARING OR WHAT'S ON YOUR DINNER PLATE TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE FAITH IN HIM.
the best respond i found so far :D
 
FauxPerspicacity said:
It's ridiculous how pompous church buildings and other places of worship are. I don't think "God" would care about how nice a church looks specially since its turning religion into a fucking business. Because an organizition might have to make compromises if they don't have enough members to pay for the building.
bingo!
 
I find it really quite funny how a lot of very religious christians follow their religion so strongly without question just so they don't go to hell. But the one thing about that is that until Dante wrote the Divine Comedy hell was not seen they way most people see it today. Originaly it was not mega-evil ansty place full of fire and demons, it was believed to be quite different. Just makes me laught i guess, that they are afraid of going to a place that their own religion made up or altered! The idea of a nasty hell is the perfect way of keeping a population who follow a religion in check, if they all fear an eternity of pain they are going to do exactly what the "good book" says. It's just a means of control, even if hell exists it's been made to look different from what peopel originaly thought it was like.
 
I am a Christian and proud of it, but, I would, and will, never force it down anyones throats. That's not what being a Christian is about. Share the word if asked? Sure thing, but never judge anyone else with the "word" as a weapon.

I agree with the observations that a lot of "Christians" think showing up on Sunday morning and giving a few bucks think they're going to Heaven. Maybe in a perfect World :) On the other hand, being a Christian is not all about the Priests and Pastors most people will see on the nightly news or in newspaper headlines either. Those kind of people make up a minority percentage overall, no different than the bad apples in anything you do or participate in. It sickens Christians as much as anyone. Same reason I don't believe all Muslims, etc.. participate in terror groups and all that kind of crazy stuff. Their beliefs may differ from mine, but hey, that's ok.

Am I a perfect Christian? Heckkkk no. I am trying to be better though. I've made certain prayers in my life and things have "coincidently" happened at those same opportune times for me to not believe. I'm not saying that's the ONLY reason I believe, but that's more of an icing on the cake remark. Some people may laugh at that, but it has happened as early as yesterday morning when I was at Church. I had something stirring within myself, I couldn't really understand it, I just knew somehow I was supposed to stand up and talk to the congregation. I get REAL nervous about getting up in front of other people I know like that, even though I don't know 98% of the Church yet (fairly new there, about 3 months). I prayed on it all service. I simply prayed if this is real, if this is what I am supposed to do, give me some sort of a sign or something so I know. It's easy to think you're being "talked to" inside your head, I never know! LOL! Moments later, the pianist goofed and there was a break in the closing song at the end of Church before everyone was to leave. I got up, walked to the front, Pastor prayed with me and I spoke to the congregation. After I said what I had to say it inspired 10+ others to come up to the altar for prayer/help. Talk about bringing a tear to your eye :) I'm Not bragging, but it was one of the most special moments of my life what happened yesterday. A prayer doesn't get answered just because it's made. There's other pieces of the puzzle to get in order if you want God's help with things. Hopefully a few more pieces get in place for me everyday.

Oh and... read the Bible if you have questions. I can't say I have always agreed with everything my pastors may have said. They're human, they let opinion slip in sometimes or take the words of the Bible out of context. If I want to seek the real answers to the Bible, I read it, poeriod. Being religious (I don't like that word)....being a Christian is not about giving up Heavy Metal, having short hair, wearing fancy clothes all the time to Church. I am SO excited about my new church because on the contrary, if you want to come in with a Hawaian shirt and a pink dress, go for it! It's a come as you are contemporary worship service, and people do just that, It's awesome.

Anyways, that's me :)
 
Lord SteveO said:
I find it really quite funny how a lot of very religious christians follow their religion so strongly without question just so they don't go to hell. But the one thing about that is that until Dante wrote the Divine Comedy hell was not seen they way most people see it today. Originaly it was not mega-evil ansty place full of fire and demons, it was believed to be quite different.
Not looking to argue, so please don't take it that way :) But I don't quite understand that line? Maybe not so much the demon part, but all the Bible talks about is a place of fire/fiery furnace/lake of fire/everlasting fire , etc. Not sure if I misunderstood your words to mean that people before Dante, thought it was full of flesh eating butterflies :p .
 
im a christian. i go to a congregational church but i dont consider myself too be part of any christian sub-group.

btw, i dont follow my religion simply out of fear. i follow it for a love of god and in order to be a better person. i dont believe that supporting the church by shelling out money will get you into heaven. but i do believe that we are a lot better off with religion than without it.
 
I bet most people wouldn't say they follow their religion out of fear, however, I bet a lot of people follow it out of habit. People that don't really consider exactly what they believe, that would rather be watching TV than even thinking about being spiritual. People that take their religion as just something 'on the side' of their life.

And by religion I also mean the lack thereof as well.
 
Maybe i didn't put it down in writing too well, but i know the bible does mention the firey pits etc but it doesn't speak of "hell" in the same way that most people think of it today. OIt was actualy only pagan writers and poets who created the burning image of hell we have at the moment. Before they wrote anything down there were many different meanings for "hell" in the bible and there were several different words that described it. If you really want info on the history of what people perceive as hell then go here: http://www.thercg.org/books/ttah.html
I guess my point was that why do so many people out there believe so strongly they must do what the church says or they will go to hell when the idea of hell we have today has been "created" fairly recently. I see it as almost being used as a threat, made up by the big religions to make those who follow blindly conform to their way of thinking and living.
Hell may exist and a lot of people believe it does in some form, just that the popular idea of it has been "made up".