Any Religious people out there?

Me personally. No. I'll believe in God when he comes down from the fucking sky, proves to me that he actually is God, and apologizes for all the fucked up shit I've had to live through. Ah, now that's off my chest, I feel a lot better. Until proof of a higher power appears to me, I'll stick to worshiping the greatest thing on this earth: the color black. :worship:
 
egonomic666 said:
im spiritual which means i beleive in a god or a higher power but i follow no specific religion itake the lessons taught and applie them so i live a good life thats it...

Exactly how I am... I thought I was alone here, lol...

I celebrate Christmas because it's a time for my whole family to get together, and I enjoy that. (my brother lives all the way across the country and I hardly get a chance to see him around the holidays.)
 
I can't stand it when people who are strongly religious simply explain something by saying "God did it". It really pisses me off.
But i totaly agree with Toolbox, when God comes down out of his heaven and shows me who he is and the rest of the world, then i might believe in him and worship him. Until then i won't go worshiping and basing my life around something that there is absolutely no proof at all of it existance.
 
Jinn said:
Anyone besides me follow a religion?

I am Muslim and damn proud to be one.

Why are you so proud to be apart of such a primitive and superstitious religion? I think it is complete utter bull shit. Unless of course, if some how, you are refering to the term Muslim as the ethnic group and not of any sort of religious connotation. If you are, then please clarrify. As a civilized human being, I have noticed that the more mental stability a person may have, the more religion becomes obsolete and completely unnecessary. But then again, i'm an enormous mal content and my views beg to differ from yours. Please clarrify.

Oh yes, and I almost forgot to mention, you have Blasphemer under your name Jinn, so that has left me completely confused...
 
MetalAges said:
Not looking to argue, so please don't take it that way :) But I don't quite understand that line? Maybe not so much the demon part, but all the Bible talks about is a place of fire/fiery furnace/lake of fire/everlasting fire , etc. Not sure if I misunderstood your words to mean that people before Dante, thought it was full of flesh eating butterflies :p .

Actually the old testament never actually refers to a hell and it is rarely talked about in the new testament. Some of the only times that hell is mentioned is when Jesus is speaking of it just before his death. Jesus refers to hell as being similar to the site of gehenna at the time. Gehenna was a very vile and desolate place at the time much like a garbage dump. a fire was kept burning there for dead bodies to be thrown into. Dante wrote a book that was entirely fictional. it told of him following god into the several layers of hell and seeing all the punnishments that lay ahead for sinners. Today this is the hell that many believe in.

You have to study the bible more closely.

I might have gotten some of this information wrong btw because i havent studied it in a while.

Also ive grown very interested in this theory that hell is merely death and not an eternal punishment. Ive studied it recently and it sounds very believable.

I bet most people wouldn't say they follow their religion out of fear, however, I bet a lot of people follow it out of habit. People that don't really consider exactly what they believe, that would rather be watching TV than even thinking about being spiritual. People that take their religion as just something 'on the side' of their life.

I also dont follow christianity out of habit. But i would have to agree with you that alot/most people nowadays do. I dont go to church nearly as much as i used to but i do study the bible and other peoples interpretations of it. I also try to be welcome to other religious ideas.
 
Sacramentum said:
Why are you so proud to be apart of such a primitive and superstitious religion? I think it is complete utter bull shit. Unless of course, if some how, you are refering to the term Muslim as the ethnic group and not of any sort of religious connotation. If you are, then please clarrify. As a civilized human being, I have noticed that the more mental stability a person may have, the more religion becomes obsolete and completely unnecessary. But then again, i'm an enormous mal content and my views beg to differ from yours. Please clarrify.

Oh yes, and I almost forgot to mention, you have Blasphemer under your name Jinn, so that has left me completely confused...

u are a complete asshole trying to tell someone what they should and shouldnt believe. sure some people may make islamic religion look evil but the religion itself isnt so bad. im not a muslim myself but that doesnt mean i can/should tell someone that their religion is "bullshit". if u ask me u are the ignorant one here.
 
really, if you look at any religion (well . . . most) you can planely see that they all try to do one thing: they try to raise the status (or if you prefer the term "evolve") into higher beings of consciousness by using our own selves to control ourselves, even if it is through an excercise or a metaphoric stroy for helping you become better. of course after all that "excercising" you must figure everything out for yourself and truly see what is going on - and that is if what i say is even real, for every single thing in this world is an opinion on how others before us have seen everything just as it will be in the future.

stop being a pompous ass
 
If you want to be a Christian, I would suggest that you read the Bible and don't just take some Priests, Pastors or even George 'dubya' Bush's word for it. What they claim goes against what is printed.

No war!
 
sonofhendrix13 said:
u are a complete asshole trying to tell someone what they should and shouldnt believe. sure some people may make islamic religion look evil but the religion itself isnt so bad. im not a muslim myself but that doesnt mean i can/should tell someone that their religion is "bullshit". if u ask me u are the ignorant one here.

Not exactly the reply i was looking for, but thanks for takinh notice, hendrix.

Isn't so bad? Have you been stuck inside a hole since the day of your birth? I'm disgusted at the way religion in general has manifested itself into the minds of human beings which is particularly their problem but hey, if it works for them, so be it! Just not for me. No no. I don't like bull shit. Do yourself a favor and see what religion is asking all of us humans to do in the name of the stinkiest bull shit in the world, man! I really don't need to tell you specifically now do I? Ask yourself, as a civilized and rational person what the fundamentals of the three major religions have told each and every one of us. It is a fairly brief answer!

But then again, maybe religion isn't all bad. If it wasn't for Columbus forcing the Natives here in the New World into slavery, baptism, and then killing many of them, I wouldn't be here stuffing my face with french fries, burgers, and sodas. Thanks to the billions of people that died because of religion, I have been given the opportunity to enjoy our country's finest landscapes and diners!

I enjoy the horrors of history, folks.
 
Sacramentum said:
Not exactly the reply i was looking for, but thanks for takinh notice, hendrix.

Isn't so bad? Have you been stuck inside a hole since the day of your birth? I'm disgusted at the way religion in general has manifested itself into the minds of human beings which is particularly their problem but hey, if it works for them, so be it! Just not for me. No no. I don't like bull shit. Do yourself a favor and see what religion is asking all of us humans to do in the name of the stinkiest bull shit in the world, man! I really don't need to tell you specifically now do I? Ask yourself, as a civilized and rational person what the fundamentals of the three major religions have told each and every one of us. It is a fairly brief answer!

But then again, maybe religion isn't all bad. If it wasn't for Columbus forcing the Natives here in the New World into slavery, baptism, and then killing many of them, I wouldn't be here stuffing my face with french fries, burgers, and sodas. Thanks to the billions of people that died because of religion, I have been given the opportunity to enjoy our country's finest landscapes and diners!

I enjoy the horrors of history, folks.

If thats what u want to believe go ahead, im perfectly fine with it but just dont go around telling people that what u believe is always completely right and they're wrong. It pisses me off when people talk about their own opinions as facts.
 
sonofhendrix13 said:
If thats what u want to believe go ahead, im perfectly fine with it but just dont go around telling people that what u believe is always completely right and they're wrong. It pisses me off when people talk about their own opinions as facts.

Two thousand-four years of lunacy should have at least the minimal credability of a fact ;)
 
Jinn said:
Anyone besides me follow a religion?

I am Muslim and damn proud to be one.
Don't know if this was a flamebait, but I'm happy for you that you found a religion and follow that one.

I don't follow any organized religion, but it's great that YOU do - as it seem to benefit you! :)



PS. This was not written as being sarcastic, it was a friendly "cheers"!
 
Cheers Mate, Nah, It's not a flame bait. I love this forum and I love Metal. The last thing I want to do is anything that would just ruin shit for others here. Heh, there's a lot of psycho Muslims out there chopping off heads and whatnot, but that's not really what we're about.
Yea, it's a real benifit, it helps me keep on my feet without paying for shit like cigs or alcohol.
See ya around \m/
 
Sacramentum said:
Two thousand-four years of lunacy should have at least the minimal credability of a fact ;)

Please realize that you're arguing against misrepresentations of religions and not the true tenets of the religions themselves.
 
Jinn said:
Cheers Mate, Nah, It's not a flame bait. I love this forum and I love Metal. The last thing I want to do is anything that would just ruin shit for others here. Heh, there's a lot of psycho Muslims out there chopping off heads and whatnot, but that's not really what we're about.
Yea, it's a real benifit, it helps me keep on my feet without paying for shit like cigs or alcohol.
See ya around \m/

Actually, there are not many muslims going around and chopping heads of people etc, but this is what "gentlemen" like Bin Laden and G W Bush wants us to believe. It's called secularization, and it stinks!!! :erk:

If YOU have found something that works for YOU, then good for you!!! :)


PS. I'm so happy that I'm over the "christians suck" and "muslims are animals" stage of my life :tickled: